Im in the striking arts right now. In the future in planning to take up judo. Do you think will i be able to hold my own on the ground with judo, or do I really have to take up bjj or wrestling to take care of my self when the fight goes to the ground?
2007-12-03 15:28:25 · 9 answers · asked by TheRapist 1 in Sports ➔ Martial Arts
As long as it's traditional Judo or what they call old school Judo and not the new Olympic sports version, you should be able to hold your own on the ground. The old school Judo was more eclectic and had more in it's arsenal. The Legendary "Judo" Gene LeBell is a great example of a student of old school Judo, he has been training and teaching ground grappling to pro fighters while Royce and his brothers were still in diapers : P
2007-12-03 20:05:34 · answer #1 · answered by Shienaran 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No, u don't hae to take bjj, or wrestling to handle yourself on the ground. Chances are ur gonna be hurt by when u hit the ground. Judo take downs are really effective, judo uses gravity, and the weight of the person to send to the ground. Chances are if ur sparing with someone in judo, and he is like 200 pounds, u might find yourself out of air when he lands on u. From there judo grappling takes over, and trust me there grapple are effective. When you start taking a class, there not going to send you into sparing with someone untill u have got the basics on hand, just like any other martial art. So no worrys, if you feel like your not up to it, or if u are, tell the sensi and he will test you on how you do.
But no, you don't have to take any other ground art in judo, because judo do fight on the ground.
2007-12-04 06:01:29 · answer #2 · answered by some_dude22 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Judo is good on the ground. I have had the opportunity to practice both BJJ and Judo. A good judoka is still a tough opponent. Generally, BJJ practicers will be more technical on the ground with their submissions and transitions.
With that being said, I would consider myself to be an intermediate grappler. I feel at home on the ground, and am quite confident in my submissions and guard.
Once I happened to randori against a very good judoka, a 2nd dan, who was about 6 ft tall and about 200lbs. The fight went to the ground, we scrambled for position and he got me in gesa gatame, the most basic hold in judo. He submitted me with just the hold. He put his entire body weight on my chest, and his base was incredible. I couldn't escape or reverse, and I can perform the escapes to this basic hold in my sleep. The instant he put me in the hold, I felt so much pressure, it was unbelievable. If I didn't tap, I would've been put to sleep.
I never felt pressure like that from any BJJ guy or wrestler.
Generally speaking, BJJ has the most technical submissions. Judo has the best throws, and pretty good groundwork. Wrestling has awesome takedown, very good matwork, mediocre submissions if any. If you have access to all three styles, I would suggest watching classes, and picking the style that best interests you.
Any of the three styles will help you in learning the ground game. Good luck.
2007-12-04 18:51:39 · answer #3 · answered by hannism 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Judo only does a handful of things on the ground, most of Judo is flashy takedowns (some of which don't work without a gi). BJJ encompasses soooooo many situations and within a few classes, even one class, you will see considerable results.
2007-12-04 18:26:17 · answer #4 · answered by chris k 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
it depends judo typically focus on the stand and takedown aspects however they do learn a good number of ground techniques, however since its not its main focus its not GREAT at newaza(ground technique) but dont get me wrong they are still pretty good. brazilian jiujitsu primary focus is ground fighting so obviously one would expect to see greater gains on the ground than judo, likewise you'll see greater gains in takedowns with judo.
there is a form of judo called kosen judo that focuses on newaza i would say its pretty much the same as brazilian jiujitsu
if you ever get a chance look at the show "human weapon" episode on judo. the premise of the show is two people one a pro mixed martial artist and a pro football player and wrestler go to different countries learn the history and the techniques behind a martial arts and after so many days fights an exprience fighters in that art.
anyways the mma fighter fought a judoka. the judoka pretty much owned him(of course it was judo rules). but the mma had a strong base in brazilian jiujitsu making his ground game his advantage however the judoka like i said does know some ground fighting so it wasnt enough to beat the judoka. the judo guy did say he was having the most amount of trouble with the mixed martial artist on the ground though.
anyways my point is you should be able to hold your own on the ground with judo, but you might not be GREAT on the ground
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosen_judo
http://www.majorsmartialarts.com/disciplines.html
2007-12-03 16:32:46 · answer #5 · answered by Cnote 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
BJJ is a decendent of judo, not classical jujutsu. The BJJ ground techniques are called "newaza" in judo, and originated in judo. So, a good judo instructor can teach you a lot about ground techniques. That said, the BJJ guys have really good technique. I just kind of wish they would have called it Brazilian Judo instead. That would avoid a lot of confusion.
2007-12-03 15:34:47 · answer #6 · answered by America the Beautiful 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
you should be ok with Judo they have alot of throws,chokes,jointlocks, grappling things of that nature
2007-12-04 12:53:16 · answer #7 · answered by timberrattler818 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The straight foward answer is no, you should find a BJJ class. A Gracie one if you can.
Where are you from? I can locate you a Gracie school in the network if there is one near you.
2007-12-03 17:01:35 · answer #8 · answered by Tom P 3 · 1⤊ 4⤋
not as good as jitjusu but its good.
2007-12-03 15:32:32 · answer #9 · answered by clyde 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋