Need help w/ Biblical translation...read details?

Question

Hey, theologians and other Biblical scholars! Can you help me? I want to know the original Greek word used in Colossians 2:14 for 'ordinances.' ( I was told this word was an incorrect translation in the KJV of the original Greek word).

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross...

Thanks in advance for your help!

Waite, y'all...I understand how to get a Greek translation of 'ordinances' but that's not what I need. I need the original Greek word that was translated ordinances...see what I mean?

TroothBT: I think you got the jist of my question. Thanks for the link...I'm going to try it just now.

Q&A Queen: hey thanks for all the time you've put in to my question. The deal is, my friend told me that ordinances (dogma in Greek) isn't correct because the original word implies doesn't imply the keeping of human traditions. She's trying to suggest that the feast days of the OT should still be honored. I'm so confused.

I meant 'doesn't imply'...aaargh, I'm typing too fast!

Q&A Queen: You're right, it is decrees! Thanks again!

br549: Yeah, I got that too. But that's translating 'ordinances' back into Greek...so far, I've found that the original Greek word written was (in English) 'decrees.' The difference would be man made traditions (dogma) versus inspired laws of God (decrees).

Answer 1

The word is δόγμασιν in Greek - or dogmasin

It is the dative| plural | neuter of dogma which is defined as: doctrine, decree, ordinance


hope this helps

Oh wow wait just a second. This verse has nothing to do with traditions or feast days. It has to do with the our debt of sin. In that we were guilty of breaking the ordinances.

This is an direct reference to the words of Jesus on the Cross.

In John 19:30 Jesus proclaimed Τετέλεσται this is a financial transaction term meaning to pay a ransom or a debt of slavery. This word most often gets translated it is finished.

This verb is a passive | imperfect verb which should rightly be the debt is and will always be in a state of full payment.

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Answer 2

I can't read ancient Greek but my Greek interlinear bible uses the word decrees... not ordinances.

interestingly, I just used a website to look at about 12 different translations. That verse is the most diversely translasted I've seen so far. All of the words definitely mean the same thing though, decrees, written document ... words with that general idea.

My pleasure, Adrift. I applaud your studiousness. THIS is the kind of question I come here for. so thank YOU.

Answer 3

Check out this site:

http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=1378

dogma

1) doctrine, decree, ordinance

a) of public decrees

b) of the Roman Senate

c) of rulers

2) the rules and requirements of the law of Moses; carrying a suggestion of severity and of threatened judgment

3) of certain decrees of the apostles relative to right living

In the KJV it is used: AV — decree 3 times, ordinance 2 times.

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Answer 4

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Answer 5

Go to scripture4all.org for an Interlinear Bible - then you can find the Greek word and then, if you have a Greek dictionary, you can look it up.

Answer 6

Read it here:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c.pl?book=Col&chapter=2&verse=14&version=KJV#14


(You should invest in a Hebrew/Greek interlinear bible.)

Answer 7

I don't know much, but I get "dogma", which is the root of a law, or an "ordinance".