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1- Why was that area called Palestine before Israel's independence?
2- Is it religious claim of land or political or both?
3- Do you think they will ever solve these issues?

2007-12-03 03:50:32 · 14 answers · asked by not fair 6 in Travel Africa & Middle East Israel

14 answers

1- because there were people, arabs: christian, Muslims and Jews, living there, and that's what they wanted to call it.
2- for the israeli government it is a political claim since israel was established by secular jews, but for many jews in israel it is a religious claim. For the Palestinians it is neither, they just want their homes back...
3- i don't know, israelis refuse to acknowledge the rights of the palestinian people, or that they even exist. They often say ''palestinians'' as if it's a joke or something, that's the problem... israel is neither willing to allow the palestinians to have their own state, neither does it allow them to become israeli citizens. In this way, israel is able to get away with all sorts of crimes against the palestinians and no one to answer to... Israelis often justify this by saying ''well we get attacked too'', but as these figures will show you... it doesn't exactly work that way

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html

http://www.slide.com/r/QKiExiGc7T88lIMr61Tltv_j7SjBgnE0?view=original

2007-12-03 04:05:25 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7 4

'Palestinian' is a recent term, despite what some Palestinians may claim. Until Israel was created, the term Palestinian was used to refer to someone from Palestine and not specifically Arabs living there. For example, Jews who moved to Palestine during the British mandate were refered to as Palestinian Jews despite them clearly not being a member of the Palestinian people as defined today. Many 'Palestinian' organizations were actually Jewish in those days, like the Palestinian Philaharmonic. Only recently has the term Palestinian been used to define the Arabic persons in this area, and thus I have to say that Israelis and Palestinians have been living in the same region for less than 60 years. Jews and Muslims however have been living in the same region more or less since Islam was founded circa 600 CE.
1- Palestine was a name given by the Romans post Jewish revolt to desociate Jews with the area. Until then it had been known as Judea, a name which clearly indicates this connection. The Romans were told that an old people, the Philistines, used to live there also along the coast and were a longtime rival of the Jews, thus that name was chosen. It has no connection to the current Palestinians, which instead is a corruption of the Roman name attempting to show their precendence to the Jewish arrival.
2-The first step of the early Zionists was to decide that a country for the Jews was neccessary as the only way to ensure their safety. The second step was to declare that this country should be situated in the ancestral land of the Jews, Israel. Not all of those people were believers, and a good many were atheists. It is true that many believed the land promised to them by God, while it is also true that many wished only to return to the Jews ancestral home, regardless of religion. Either way, the percentage of Jews living in Israel today is 80% of the population, so the simplest claim is demographics. Whether or not Israel's basic claim is valid (which I believe it is), it's current claim cannot be disputed. Palestinians claim peoplehood as well and that Israel and the occupied territories was all once Palestine, their country. Historically this is false, as no country has existed with the name Palestine, nor has there ever been an autonomous country in the region, with the exception of the Crusader kingdom that briefly existed but was clearly not Palestinian. Furthermore, there has never been recognition of a Palestinian people until recent times. However, there is a large number of Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank, and that claim cannot be refuted either.
3- One day these issues will be solved. When and how I cannot tell you, nor can anyone else, but every conflict ends some way at some point.

2007-12-04 14:16:34 · answer #2 · answered by Michael J 5 · 1 2

Why was that area called Palestine before Israel's independence?
It was called Palestine because the people who lived there were called Palestinians. After WWI the country was called the Mandate government of Palestine from 1920 to 1948.

Is it religious claim of land or political or both?
It is political more than religious claim because the native people of Palestine have the right to exist too if the land is religiously claimed by the Zionist who believe that the land religiously was their land 3000 years ago.

Do you think they will ever solve these issues?
Yes they will when the Israelis realize that Palestine has the right to exist too and the Israeli existence will never be completed without the existence of Palestine.
Occupying other people by force is losing policy in the past and now and has no future either.

2007-12-03 09:15:37 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

I think the part that is confusing to you is the fact that there were Jews already living in Israel since the time of Moses. The Jews that came to Israel after the Holocaust just returned to join their ancestors that were still there. My ex-fiance was Jewish and his family looks Arabic. His mother's side has been in Israel for as far back as they know. They call them Sephardic or Mizrahi Jews. The Jews that lived in Europe for a long time, are referred to as Ashkenazik Jews. There are even Chinese Jews called Kaifeng Jews. They are very interesting because they have existed for over 1000 years and little is known about them, but they do exist. Many people are under the impression that the only Jews that live in Israel are Holocaust refugees. That just isn't true. Also many people are mistaken that the modern day "Palestinians" were all there already when that is just not true. Many of the Arab Muslims in Israel today migrated there when the European Jews did, because of the flourishing economy. Some of the Non-Jewish Israelis had been ostracized from their home countries for being different and were kicked out. That seems to also be the reason, none of the other Arab countries want them today. Israel allowed the immigrants in with open arms and gave them jobs and stuff. See, there were immigrants from both backgrounds that came, and there were also people already there from both backgrounds. It is very complicated but Mark S and Paperback have done a lot of research on this and know a lot. Their answers are very credible.

2016-05-27 23:59:37 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The land was called Palestine because once the Romans had a civil war with the Jews for being unlawful and what not they named it after Filistin (from the Philistines tribe that lived there before hand) and told them to leave because together they caused problems. Israel never had an independence, because they were not ever sovereigned by another country. Jews on the other hand lived as citizens under other countries not to be confused (Jews and Israelis not the same). Finally the issue is politically, but everyone uses religion as a cloak to make it seem fair to wrong people political. The issues will probably not end soon, especially when we still find misconceptions in facts, and disagree with history.

2007-12-03 10:20:21 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

First there was the ancestors of the Palestinians. Then came Judaism (they converted), then came Islam (they converted). In Southern Russia, a tribe called Khazar; who were conquered by the Arabs, and forced to convert to Islam. When they throw off the Arabs, they converted to Judaism and then to zionist.

The zionist them came to Palestine and claimed it as there because they shared the religion of the ancient Palestinians (who had now converted to Islam).

Ridiculous but true.

The reason was lust for land and power and has nothing to do with religion. That was just the excuse.

2007-12-03 17:10:45 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

It's a complex question, but in recent history massive influx of Jews and Arabs into the Land started around last quoter of 19th century. Before that the land was scarecely populated at all. But those who lived here were both Jews and Arabs. There is a testimony written by Mark Twain where he claims that at the time when he visited the land was scarecely populated.

For Jews it is definitely religeous claim and political as well. I suppose it is the same for Arabs

The name Palestine was invented by Romans in their attempt to wipe any reminders of Jewish presence in the area after they defited Jewish revolts around 2000 years ago.

My personal openion that conflict will not be resolved in near future.

2007-12-03 04:00:14 · answer #7 · answered by Lizard 4 · 4 2

1) For a long time ago. Before 1948, 80% of the population were palestinians and 20% were Jews.
2) It is both religious and political but I guess more religious for the Israelis and more political for the Palestinians.
3) NO.

Peace

2007-12-03 06:53:37 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 6 4

1. the area was called sirya-palestine by the roman after the jewish revolt in order to upset the jews.
2. For the jews its both, for the palestinians its only political, since if it were religious as well then its a claim of all muslims.
3. if the arabs finnaly accept the palestinians into their countries then yes.



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2007-12-03 03:56:07 · answer #9 · answered by The Hebrew Hammer 2 · 7 6

you r good looking!

if you call the palastinians palastinians soo you cen call israelis palastinians too, like: jewish palastinian israelis...
palastin is a name of a region , not a people or nation.
yasser arrafat has invented the term. before they were tribes with no common thing , scattered all over the land.
like bedohins... but they do have right's on the land, that is something else.. but these who run away got no right's they choose to flee...by the encouragement of the arab army's who invaded israel in 48'.

2007-12-03 04:06:53 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

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