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OK. So I respect the fact, that you do not believe in
religion, or Christ. But do you put more trust in just
things that are illogical, or without reason ? Or do you
believe in some form of intelligent design, or universal
force, in any way possible. Does science get your
neo cortex juices flowing ? What do you believe in ?
Best answer wins. *

2007-12-03 03:41:27 · 33 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

The universe is a very complex
creation. The world did not just
fall from the sky, or came from
nothing.

2007-12-03 03:42:40 · update #1

Hey number "3". Is that your age ?
I kinda thought so.....

2007-12-03 03:47:38 · update #2

33 answers

Erm...Did you just say that the Big Bang Theory is more illogical than the Intelligent Design Hypothesis?

Haha. Because that's sort of a jerk thing to say.

2007-12-03 03:45:14 · answer #1 · answered by Maitreya 3 · 7 0

"ex nihilo, nihilo fit", as St Aquinas said, or "Nothing comes from nothing". To believe in Intelligent Design you must believe that God created everything out of nothing, thus acentuating His transcendence. But that is no less crazy than the Big Bang - 'First there was nothing and then it exploded!'

Why not go with the steady state theory, which suggests that the Universe is eternal. If this is the case than the Universe did not have a definitive first cause. Or then theree is the Band-Crunch theory, which suggests that the Universe is in a constant state of expansion and contraction (we are in an expansion plase at the moment).

If you want a serious debate then I and many others are up for it, but please make the questions a little more intelligent and not so snide or demeaning. You only demean your own position when you do that.

2007-12-03 04:36:10 · answer #2 · answered by Norman W 3 · 0 0

I think that atheists don't necessarily believe in the big bang theory, atheism is simply the lack of belief in god or gods, and does not state belief or disbelief in the big bang, since it is an event and not a god or gods.

We all believe somethings that are without reason from time to time. Our consciousness does this automatically. We are always trying to "fill in the blanks". It's how religion began, and it's how we discover laws, come up with theories, make predictions based on prior patterns, and so on. It's part of being conscious, and provides a Darwinian advantage.

The idea is that when you are clinging to an idea in spite of evidence to the contrary, then it's time to reconsider.

Science, art, and philosophy have always easily done for me what religion tries so hard to do: educate me about the world I live in, experience transcendentalism, and assess my morality and where I fit into the world. These would be the "neo cortex juices" I guess.

I do not believe in intelligent design, but I do believe in a universal force... gravity.

2007-12-03 03:59:08 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I hope you don't mind if an Agnostic (technically half-Atheist) answers this... (Interesting question, so I figured why not?)

I believe there is a "creative force" out there that is responsible for the creation of the universe and everything and everyone in it. But whether it's the Christian God, or Gaea (Mother Nature), or Allah, or the "Big Bang", or Isis, or Zeus, or whoever/whatever else -- who knows??? I wasn't there to witness the creation of the universe or life in it when it happened; nor was anyone else I know.

As for the THEORY of "Intelligent Design": it is literally impossible for ANYONE to prove OR disprove the physical existence of ANY deity, Christian or otherwise, beyond all measure of doubt. Therefore, when it comes right down to it, NO one on this planet can state for absolute certainty, beyond ALL measure of doubt, exactly who/what was responsible for all of creation.

By the way, kindly refrain from dissing on Atheists, would you? Implying that they "put more trust in just things that are illogical, or without reason" is rather disrespectful -- not to mention ignorant. Just because they don't believe in the Christian God does NOT automatically make them a bunch of irrational idiots. My husband is an Atheist, and he's one of the most highly intelligent people I know.

2007-12-03 04:08:28 · answer #4 · answered by Gypsy 4 · 0 0

You don't know enough about the Big Bang to decide whether or not it is illogical. It wasn't an actual explosion, it was a rapid expansion of space-time. We don't know what caused it, but it's a very good model of how the universe cam to be. It explains the phenomena we observe. If you can make a model that explains reality as well as the BBT, it will certainly be looked at. Until then, it's the best we have.

As for complexity, complexity is rarely a result of design. Simplicity is the ultimate goal in any design, complexity just makes things break more often. The complexity shown in the universe can easily be explained by differing densities in the early universe and the four forces (strong force, weak force, electromagnetic force and gravity).

2007-12-03 03:48:45 · answer #5 · answered by Eiliat 7 · 3 0

atheism isn't a philosophy or stance. All atheists are different. I get called an 'atheist' because I don't believe in (or deny the possibility of) deities.

I don't know much about the 'Big Bang Theory'.

I don't think anyone can claim to believe they know anything about it 100% and remain honest.

Knowledge is better than belief, hence I don't believe anything about the creation of the universe as no-one knows.

For all I know the universe was always there. Or it is just a small fart from a larger metaverse that is populated by gigantic alien beings bigger than we can imagine, so big that every cell of their body is a gazillion times bigger than a universe. Or everything comes from a different time and place, from realms that we could not understand, but themselves are subjective to some other process which has different laws of time and space.


PS I don't agree with your statement that 'intelligent design' is logical. All the evidence I have read points to intelligent design being just another name for creationism. It certainly isn't argued from 'reason', but from doctrine, dissembly, misrepresentation of science and an openly creationist agenda.

2007-12-03 03:45:13 · answer #6 · answered by Bajingo 6 · 8 0

Yes, I believed the universe, galaxies, stars, solar systems, planets, life all evolved from the original big bang. There is two much evidence out there not to. The question as to where the sinularity came from--is matter eternal--is a metaphysical one at this point, but to believe in a being that created a matter is one more level of complexity--and by occams razor--eternal matter is a simpler explanation than an eternal god creating eternal matter-and besides for the truly questioning mind--if a god created matter-who created god--the same reasoning you have for discounting matter being there would perforce have to apply to a deity as well. Myself--I just try and live my life well and to the fullest--and not concern myself with what happened before the big bang.

2007-12-03 03:50:09 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I do. Not all of us do though.

But if you believed in "Intelligent Design" you by definition wouldn't be an atheist. You would be a Deist.

Added: The Big Bang theory DOES NOT contend that the Universe came from nothing. It only says that all the matter and energy was at a single point at one time. The only group that says the universe came from nothing are the religious when they contend that god made it that way.

2007-12-03 03:45:16 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

"I don't want to believe, I want to know." (Carl Sagan)

I don't really think in terms of "beliefs". I don't "believe" this or "believe" that. I think in terms of possibility and degree of probability. Big Bang has been the prevailing theory until recently, now we're exploring many others, but I don't "believe in" any one of them.

In the simplest terms...for the moment, I am entertaining the possibility that the Universe has always existed, goes through an endless cycle of expansion and contraction, and two or more plains collided at some point, something like an earthquake, where jagged edges come into contact with each other. Energy can be converted to matter and vice versa, but as for whether the Universe is infinite space and time, I don't know. Nobody knows yet, and we may not know for hundreds or thousands of years, we may never know. We continue to learn and study and try to find out. We don't plug the God of the Gaps into the question and leave it at that - I consider that intellectual laziness.

2007-12-03 03:45:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 9 0

The belief of me as an atheist is the belief in the most logical theory when it comes to the creation or start of the universe.
again why can God come from nothing but the universe cant.
your question/criticism, is rubbish. intelligent design appears in the different species, although we do not call it intelligent design we call it natural selection, the most beautiful process on the earth, which as a christian/muslim/whatever you reject, as in most cases it contradicts God's creation of the Earth.
so how much of science do you "believe" in???
God is used to explain the gaps that humans couldnt explain with science. as humans as a species find out more about the world we live in, religion will become an obselete piece of ****, as in my opinion it is today

2007-12-03 04:04:26 · answer #10 · answered by periwinkle123 2 · 0 0

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