in the beginning 'the Word was with God', 'With' means 2 seperate being, so Word can NOT be God?

Question

if I am 'with' you, then we are 2 person, we can't be one person, right?

Answer 1

Correct. One of many reasons why I believe God and Jesus are seperate beings.

Answer 2

Why is it almost everyone uses the scripture John 1:1 to prove Jesus is God? When it is one of the most inaccurate scriptures in the King James Bible.

John 1:1 states: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (King James Version) Later in the same chapter, the apostle John clearly shows that “the Word” is Jesus. (John 1:14) Since the Word is called God, however, some conclude that the Son and the Father must be part of the same God.

If this verse were interpreted to mean Jesus was himself God Almighty, it would contradict the preceding statement, “the Word was with God.” Someone who is “with” another person cannot be the same as that other person. Many Bible translations thus draw a distinction, making clear that the Word was not God Almighty. For example, a sampling of Bible translations say the following: “The Word was a God,” “a god was the Word,” and “the Word was divine.

And no matter what is concluded about “the Word,” the fact is that only two persons are mentioned at John 1:1, not three. Over and over again, all texts used to try to support the Trinity doctrine utterly fail to do so when examined honestly.

Bear in mind that this part of the Bible was originally written in Greek. Later, translators rendered the Greek text into other languages. A number of Bible translators, though, did not use the phrase “the Word was God.” Why not? Based on their knowledge of Biblical Greek, those translators concluded that the phrase “the Word was God” should be translated differently. How? Here are a few examples: “The Logos [Word] was divine.” (A New Translation of the Bible) “The Word was a god.” (The New Testament in an Improved Version) “The Word was with God and shared his nature.” (The Translator’s New Testament) According to these translations, the Word is not God himself. Instead, because of his high position among God"s creatures, the Word is referred to as “a god.” Here the term “god” means “mighty one.”

For instance, consider what John further writes in chapter 1, verse 18: “No man has seen [Almighty] God at any time.” However, humans have seen Jesus, the Son, for John says: “The Word [Jesus] was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory.” (John 1:14, KJ) How, then, could the Son be part of Almighty God? John also states that the Word was “with God.” But how can an individual be with someone and at the same time be that person? Moreover, as recorded at John 17:3, Jesus makes a clear distinction between himself and his heavenly Father. He calls his Father “the only true God.” And toward the end of his Gospel, John sums up matters by saying: “These have been written down that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God.” (John 20:31) Notice that Jesus is called, not God, but the Son of God. This additional information provided in the Gospel of John shows how John 1:1 should be understood. Jesus, the Word, is “a god” in the sense that he has a high position but is not the same as Almighty God.

So we find that some translations of verse 1 give the correct idea of the original language when they read: “The Word was with God, and the Word was divine,” or was “a god,” that is, the Word was a powerful godlike one. (An American Translation) Clearly, Jesus is not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus spoke of his Father as “my God” and as “the only true God.” John 20:17:3.

Answer 3

Your reasoning is correct. Remember this was originally written in ancient Greek, and translations vary in their choice of wording. The part where it says "the Word was with God" the Greek texts use a definite article in front of word and god, meaning there is only one word and one god. That is why Word and God is capitalized. It is a title referring to a specific person. The next sentence reads, "the Word was God." There is no definite article before God in this instance. So really it could read, "The Word was (a) god." For a truly accurate rendering the rest of the Bible must be taken into account for comparison. For a detailed explanation of this and other bible topics see: http://www.watchtower.org/

Answer 4

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

is the same as:

"In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God"

Jesus is the SECOND Person of the Trinity. The FIRST being the Father and the THIRD being the Holy Spirit. So your right...Three Distinct Persons = ONE GOD. Jesus as you know was also human. The Father and the Holy Spirit are ONE AND THE SAME "WITH" JESUS - GOD. Yes it is a freaky concept when one doesnt believe in Jesus. Yet God is God and He is REAL.

If Jesus lied about God then Jesus would not have risen from the dead but He did. I repeat He did. JESUS LITERALLY ROSE FROM THE DEAD. His apostles are eye-witnesses to His ressurection. Jesus is God and God doesnt lie. Hard to understand but you gotta hav the desire to know God in order to ask Him for understanding of Him

Does your God lie? All atheists lie when they say they do not believe in God. They just dont believe in the True God. but they replace Him with Another or a Something which they believe is God. Some call Him Goodness, Humanity, Logic or Reason. These are all false gods. I'm sticking with Jesus.

Peace, not the peace of man, but the Peace of Jesus be with you, man. God bless

EDIT: QueenBea: my dear sister you are deluded. Jesus as you well know said God alone is God. Jesus is not "a god". You insult Him whom you call your Lord. Jesus is God. and you my dear as all other JWs will never be other gods either. Just like me you too are a created being. Being given immortality through attaining Heaven does not turn a created being into a god. I'ld laugh except i know you're serious. And if you are of the same belief as mormons then you too are mistaken if you think you will marry and have spirit children.

Answer 5

You guys are missing his point. If the Word was *with* God, how could the Word *be* God? Wouldn't such a statement require more research? If you guys did any research, you would easily recognize the mistranslation in the last part of that verse. There are dozens of other scriptures that prove that Jesus is not God.

Answer 6

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and The Word was God.
The Word became flesh.
Jesus was the Word who became flesh. God took on humanity and became the God-Man. 2 separate persons but 1 God. 3 persons actually when you include the Holy Spirit. One God who reveals Himself in 3 persons.

Answer 7

Don't stop reading half way through the verse.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Answer 8

The Word is Christ. Wisdom was with God from the beginning, too.

Answer 9

If you read on in that very same verse, it says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." It says the Word was God, even in the beginning. It clarifies that Jesus did not just become God after his resurrection. It makes sure we know that he was already God even in the beginning. Is this clear to you now?

Answer 10

It would actually help if you didn't split apart the entire verse like that. John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." So, the Word is also God.

Then, John 1:14 clearly indicates "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father." The divine Word becomes incarnated as Christ Jesus.

And finally, "Great indeed, we confess is the mystery of our religion: God was manifest in the flesh..." (1 Timothy 3:16)

They're one in the same.

Answer 11

Jesus is that 'Word' you speak of. He was there in the beginning with God, during the creation process. Yes they are two distinct characters.