Do you know what persecution is?

Question

I'll tell you what it isn't: being teased and disagreed with on a public internet forum.

Homosexuals don't have the right to get married to the person they love. Agnostics and Atheists can't run for public office in many states. Women still have to fight for the right to do with their own body what they please.

Christians are the vast majority in this country. Their beliefs shape most public opinion and laws. And some of them still think they're somehow persecuted.

How ridiculous is that?

Taelec: Have you? I'd guess not. I'm talking about Christians in America.

Answer 1

Business as usual, unfortunately.

Answer 2

I can see that some christian people seem to believe that they have a right to persecute because there are christians out there who have been or are being persecuted.

I guess they cannot see that they are violating the golden rule with type of thinking. Something about do onto others as you would have done on to you.

As for the person who above who asked for evidence of a state that would not allow an atheist to hold office.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/texas.htm
In Texas, the state constitution requires an affirmation of a supreme being before a person can hold office. Now, this would definately get tossed out by the Supreme Court if a case ever arose where an atheist was denied office but the law is currently there. I do not know of the other states but it would not suprise me to find that others had similiar laws.

Oops, I read a little further down on the link that I gave and yes, there are other states that have similiar laws.

Answer 3

you are blind by your own ignorance. soon you will be saying that child molestators are being persecuted because people wont allow then to be with the little boys that they love. homosexuality is wrong, you don't have to have half a brain to see that marriage has been created for a man and woman.(sexual organs)
and please prove to me where atheists can run for office in many STATES.
And why cant woman do what they want to with there own body. why cant i shoot up my body with crack?? abortion IS MURDER. do you disagree with me?? how is it not murder?? you stop a beating heart.
also christens arnt the vast majority of this counrty, not any more. and look up the word persecution. someone attacking someone on a public form is persecution. christain are persecuted more than anyone. you dont know anything. you just watch the news who fills you mind with lies, you never go out and try to find the truth to facts.
we are attacked all the time. you just dont realise it. you guys are taking away OUR holiday, Christmas. " i cant even say merry christman anymore."
i got a letter 8 weeks ago saying that my child hood best friends aunt and her whole family was executed for being christains in other counties. do you know what Muslims do to christian if they catch one of us in the middle east? they tape the movies of them killing christain i have seen one, there gross what they do. and the funny thing is the media never shows anything about it.

Answer 4

I know the definition, but no, even as a pagan woman in the south, I still don't think I have experianced REAL persecution. And even the few times I have, I wasn't quiet about it.
I agree with you. Christians in American have no idea what REAL persecution is. They just want everyone to believe like they do. If someone doesn't they cry into thier Holy Water.


BrotherM: Not a single example you gave was in AMERICA

Answer 5

What's rediculous is your accusation that atheists can't run for public office in some states. That's blatantly unconstitutional: a public office can have no religious test as a qualification. Period.

And while I am pro-choice and pro-gay-marriage, I think calling the alternatives "persecution" is just as ridiculous as the claims some Christians have about being persecuted.

Christians being fed to lions is persecution. Being burned at the stake because you're Protestant is persecution. Losing your store or your home or your life because you're Jewish is persecution. Being run out of Baghdad because you're Sunni is persecution.

Answer 6

What do YOU know (sniff) of persecution (sniff, sniff)?

And what happened to your question about the golden compass- the one I answered with "Ok. But I'm still not going to see it"?


Yup. You're 20 years old and it shows. The times you "grew up" in, eh?

Answer 7

i think of atheists bullying and persecution of the non secular is fantastically abominable, reprehensible and demoralising ... the probabilities of the non secular gaining legal risk-free practices to prepare their ideals in peace is extremely unlikely as faith is so divided. it is pushed aside as exciting and frolics till one discerns the long term era damages and the delinquent forces attempting to money in on robbing the hundreds of something to stick to and belive in.

Answer 8

I can only say to homosexuals that want to get married come to Canada..It is very accepted here. You can have an abortion with out a fight. You can use stem cells for research. Christians comprise the same amount of the population. 75%. I don't know what the trouble is in the USA.. Do you vote? Do you lobby for your rights?
http://www.mondaq.com/i_article.asp_Q_articleid_E_35728

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Canada

Abortion in Canada is not limited by law. While some non-legal obstacles exist, Canada is one of only a few nations with no legal restrictions on abortion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Canada

Answer 9

Lets see - verbal abuse, death treats, attempted murder, our property vandalised, intimidation to name but a few - all because we happened to be LDS (and English). If that isnt persecution then what is?

Answer 10

This is persecution:

* Christian Couple Sentenced to be Whipped
November 12, 2007

IRAN – In July 2007, an Iranian Christian couple was sentenced by the Justice Court of Revolution to be whipped, two years after they were accused of attending a house church.

According to Farsi Christian News Network (FCNN), “The couple was arrested on September 21, 2005 by government agents. They had gathered in a house, in a town northwest of Tehran for their regular prayer and devotional time.”

FCNN reported the woman was born into a Christian in an Assyrian-Iranian family, while the man converted to Christianity long before their marriage. The couple married seven years ago, but could not register their marriage due to legal restrictions on Christian marriage licenses. FNCC said, “According to the Court of Revolution, the wedding of non-Muslims by Islamic Law is equivalent to conversion to Islam. So, the confession of faith by the wife was an indication of turning to Christianity again, therefore she was announced Mortad (a person who turns away from Islam), in this case the sentence is death.”

Following their arrest in 2005, the couple was required to check in with authorities on a regular basis until the court decided their punishment. FCNN reported that on one occasion, when the wife met with authorities, she was abused and decided not to return. According to FCNN, “After a few days, in September 2007, two female and four male agents went to this couple’s house and showed them a letter from the court saying they should execute the sentence of whipping right there in their house. This couple is under high mental pressure right now.” Government agents proceeded to whip the couple.

* In 2003, a North Korean army general was shot and killed by a fellow officer for evangelizing to his unit. Many other Christians are currently facing similar situations of execution or imprisonment for sharing their faith, owning a Bible, or for no explanation at all. Yet sources say that these are "very strong believers" and they refuse to deny their faith, even in the face of torture and death.

According to reports from former government officials and prisoners, like Soon-Ok Lee, treatment of religious prisoners is much more severe, particularly for Christians. In her book, Eyes of the Tailless Animals, Soon-Ok Lee partnered with VOM to share the stories of horror and the steadfast faith of Christians in a North Korean prison.

Imprisoned Christians are not the only ones under pressure. The sources also tell of prisoners’ families being threatened or, in some cases, held hostage.

North Korean Christians that were saved in the spiritual revivals in the late 1940’s have played a vital role in the survival of Christianity in North Korea. Sources report that these believers have kept the faith alive by passing down their faith from generation to generation.

Foreign and religious contact is highly discouraged among the people of North Korea and strictly limited. Often the few people allowed to travel outside of the country show interest in Christianity but will not even accept a Bible because of the negative affects it could have on their families back in North Korea. Sources also report that Christians fear outside contact due to government informants posing as believers. The North Korean church has been forced to exist completely underground.

You do not know what persecution is.

Answer 11

*applause*

Persecution is the risk of being put to death for your beliefs. Being laughed at through a screen is not.