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I know I am. It's time to stop this nonsense. If you're in a job that pays badly why should I contribute to your lousy wages?

2007-12-02 08:02:05 · 19 answers · asked by Scriobh 1 in Society & Culture Etiquette

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This is mostly a U.S. habit. Tipping in Asia and parts of Europe are unusual. In Japan, Korea, China, I have been told that it is not necessary for two reasons.
1. Higher quality restuarants add 10% to the bill for service charge. Not clear how much if any gets back to the server, but there is more than just the server that prepares the food, so if the service fee gets split, this may be more fair than if it is given entirely to the server.
2. Providing good service in Asia is an "honor". It is not a momentarily, selective process based on the individuals being served. Therefore, it is not necessary to tip in Asia, as the person is not smiling at you for a tip, but as an honor to provide you good service.
After living in Hong Kong and spending considerable time traveling in Asia, I have come to see how the archaic traditions of early colonists and tobacco farmers is really another slap in the face of consumers in the U.S.. We should not feel obligated to tip someone if we receive pleasant, courteous service. If someone can't provide this level of quality service, they should get a different job. The food in Asia is not that much more expensive than in the U.S., so the service should be as good without the tips. When can we get back to giving good service without expecting special treatment in the way of tips. Grow up America.

2007-12-02 08:56:18 · answer #1 · answered by Reality Check O 1 · 0 1

So the next time you have a lousy job with terrible wages, I'm sure people will think of you and remember how much you cared.

It's not their fault that they are in an in-between job and many are doing those lousy jobs while they get an education for a better job.

2007-12-02 16:07:44 · answer #2 · answered by lazuli d 1 · 4 0

As a waitress, I depend on tips! I often make more than $15-$30 an hour wage jobs just by waiting tables! You are rude! If you had ever served or been a bartender, you would understand! I work in a very nice and expensive restaurant. Good luck being a non-tipping jackass...

Note: Watch out for that "special" sauce added to your meal next time you go out to dinner!

2007-12-02 16:56:31 · answer #3 · answered by aguilar_laurita 4 · 0 0

I actually agree with wait staff relying on tips and yes I do tip well if I get good service. The main reason I agree with it is in Oregon, wait staff still gets state minimum wage. Which is close to 8 dollars an hour. Many times when going out to eat you receive poorer service if the staff is still getting paid that much. (not saying 8 an hour is a lot its just more than the norm for wait staff) I feel if the server is relying on tips for a living wage I generally get better service. However I wont leave a tip in a tip jar, I don't tip my mail man who I never see and wont even bother bringing packages to my door ( a few times packages got crushed in the mail box) I don't tip my garbage man who I also don't ever see. If I ever receive exceptional service I tip. But I don't give handouts just because they are expected.

2007-12-02 16:25:27 · answer #4 · answered by Pagen 1 · 1 0

That is an extremely rude and disrespectful thing to say and I honestly hope you burn in hell for it. Most college and university students are waiters/waitresses or bartenders and rely on tips to pay for their education and you think this is wrong? It isn't nonsense it is called living. I am a college student trying to live on my own and I rely on tips to pay my rent as does the rest of the staff I work with. Not all people can get nice paying jobs right off the bat. You should really open your eyes here buddy and see that the world doesn't revolve around you.

2007-12-02 16:12:58 · answer #5 · answered by Katy C 1 · 4 0

This is a bold move, but it doesn't address the problem. In order to address the problem, we as a society need to decide that we are willing to pay more for the service provided. By paying more for the service, we won't need to leave a tip.

The good with this is that it would level the playing field a bit. Service providers wouldn't worry about getting stiffed. We wouldn't need to think about the amount of tip to leave - it would already be included.

But, realize that you are also giving something up. If you get bad service, you would not have the option of leaving less. Going to management (that's a fun thought) would be the only recourse.

In my opinion, tipping is getting out of hand. I try to be generous, but my means only go so far.

2007-12-02 16:14:55 · answer #6 · answered by teolson88 2 · 0 1

It's people with your attitude that make serving such a hard job. Next time you go out to eat, why don't you just get everything for yourself, then maybe you'll understand why servers deserve a tip. You obviously have never had a tip-based job, because if you had you would know that it can be hard work catering to every need of people who couldn't care less about you. And you have to be kind and courteous and even sometimes entertaining. If you can't tip in 2008 then please only eat at McDonalds!

2007-12-02 16:43:30 · answer #7 · answered by J. J. 1 · 4 0

You should contribute to my lousy wages so the cost of your food won't be doubled because my employer had to pay me more. Think about it. Seriously.

2007-12-02 17:03:55 · answer #8 · answered by Peggy W 2 · 0 0

i will NOT give up tipping. if i have money enough to eat out, i TIP the waiter or waitress. if i have money enough to have my hair done, they get tipped to. on the other hand, i HATE it when a whole fleet of people at the salon try to serve me cause now we are talking tip splitting.

yesterday i had my hair done. looks FANTASTIC but costed me two hundred bucks. twenty percent tip is FORTY dollars! three people worked on me so i gave the shampoo girl $5, the henna girl $10, and the stylist $25. a friggin fortune but i sure cant do what they do

2007-12-02 16:16:10 · answer #9 · answered by bebop_music 5 · 0 0

Tipping is nonsense?
It's a way for small businesses to pay their employees less, so they can charge you less for the goods or services you are buying. You would be paying anyway--this way you can use your money to let the employee know they did a good job or not. The alternative would be that businesses would have to pay their employees twice as much (no one can live on less than $10/hour) and charge you the difference. (for example)

2007-12-02 17:19:27 · answer #10 · answered by Erin L-G 1 · 2 1

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