Should we believe in trinity?

Question

When it makes no sense?

"... from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God" -- Psalm 90:2 (Also Psalm 93:2)

"He [Jesus] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation." -- Colossians 1:15

If God is from time indefinite and Jesus is created, thus has a beginning, how come Jesus is God? If before creating anything there was just God, Jehovah, how come now people believe that he is a trinity? How could he become 3 if at the beginning it was just him?

Please limit on answering my questions. Thank you.

wyomugs: Colossians 1:15 says clearly that Jesus was created ("firstborn of all creation"). The verse states that Jesus is "the IMAGE of the invisible God", not the invisible God.

Answer 1

It's a ridiculous concept with NO Biblical support whatsoever.

Have you seen how they try to "explain" it?

A few years back, it was simply "1+1+1=1". Now I see here all sorts of remixes;

1x1x1=1, eggs, triple points, three-lobed leaves, grandfather-son-grandson relationships, spouses sharing a surname, hours-minutes-seconds......

They might as well just say "It's a mystery" rather than trying to explain a nonsensical concept.

Answer 2

‘But isn’t Jesus called a god in the Bible?’ someone may ask. This is true. Yet Satan is also called a god. (2 Corinthians 4:4) At John 1:1, which refers to Jesus as “the Word,” some Bible translations say: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” But notice, verse 2 says that the Word was “in the beginning with God.” And while men have seen Jesus, verse 18 says that “no man hath seen God at any time.” (Authorized or King James Version) So we find that some translations of verse 1 give the correct idea of the original language when they read: “The Word was with God, and the Word was divine,” or was “a god,” that is, the Word was a powerful godlike one. (An American Translation) Clearly, Jesus is not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus spoke of his Father as “my God” and as “the only true God.”

Did Jesus ever say that he was God? No, he never did. Rather, in the Bible he is called “God’s Son.” And he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” Also, Jesus explained that there were some things that neither he nor the angels knew but that only God knew. (Mark 13:32) Further, on one occasion Jesus prayed to God, saying: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” (Luke 22:42) If Jesus were the Almighty God, he would not have prayed to himself, would he? In fact, following Jesus’ death, the Scripture says: “This Jesus God resurrected.” (Acts 2:32) Thus the Almighty God and Jesus are clearly two separate persons. Even after his death and resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus was still not equal to his Father.


As for the “Holy Spirit,” the so-called third Person of the Trinity, this is not a person but God’s active force. John the Baptizer said that Jesus would baptize with holy spirit, even as John had been baptizing with water. Hence, in the same way that water is not a person, holy spirit is not a person. (Matthew 3:11) What John foretold was fulfilled when, following the death and resurrection of Jesus, holy spirit was poured out on his followers gathered in Jerusalem. The Bible says: “They all became filled with holy spirit.” (Acts 2:4) Were they “filled” with a person? No, but they were filled with God’s active force. Thus the facts make clear that the Trinity is not a Bible teaching. Actually, long before Jesus walked the earth gods were worshiped in groups of three, or trinities, in places such as ancient Egypt and Babylon.

Answer 3

I agree Alex, the Trinity makes no sense at all. I remeber once at school a while back a classmate was trying to explain the Trinity to me. He confused me. I showed him Col. 1:15 and he said yes god created jesus but there the same. LOL So I asked him, if I make a cake, does that mean I am the cake. It was silly. It is sad that 2 Corinthians 4:4 is being fulfilled today. Also have you noticed that Mark 12:29 says Jehovah is one Jehovah, not three. Also at John 1:18 John said that NO MAN has ever seen god at anytime. Men saw Jesus in person. So that is another of the many reasons why the Trinity is unscriptural.


and maybe too the word TRINITY doesn't even appear in the bible. LOL

Oh, sorry I forgot to answer your question, NO we should not believe in the Trinity.

Answer 4

The trinity doctrine is not from the Bible. The Bible does not support it and is quite the opposite of what it shows about the nature of God and his son Jesus. It is a man-made idea that was adopted into the "church" long after Jesus left the earth (400 years afterward).

Religions that still hold on to this idea are spreading false doctrine and distort who God and Jesus really are. Unfortunately this includes the majority of religions claiming to be "Christian" today and thus identifying them as part of the false religious system that Satan uses to confuse the masses.

True religion and those who care about serving God correctly would reject this trinity idea.

Answer 5

There is but one God! and Jesus is not it! Jesus is the Son of God, but that does not make Him The God. The trinity is a catholic/pagan myth and has absolutely nothing to do with the Word of God.

Answer 6

Good pt.! And John 14: 28 is where God's Christ (meaning annointed ((by SOMEONE)) says " the Father is GREATER than I am".
"Yeah, but 'the Father & I are one', it says." Sure. Just as Jesus & his apostles "were one, too." And the body members "are one", in the sense that fellow worshipers (a body of the faithful) all function in the congregation of God, each performing various vital tasks in the service of thier Father.

Answer 7

Jesus Christ was created from Jehovah God. they are not one and the same. Jesus said he cannot do anything without the Father in the heaven. he never said he was God. when Jesus was baptized, Jehovah came down like a dove and said this is my son the beloved.

Answer 8

Dishonoring God

“THOSE honoring me I shall honor,” says God. (1 Samuel 2:30) Does it honor God to call anyone his equal? Does it honor him to call Mary “the mother of God” and the “Mediatrix . . . between the Creator and His creatures,” as does the New Catholic Encyclopedia? No, those ideas insult God. No one is his equal; nor did he have a fleshly mother, since Jesus was not God. And there is no “Mediatrix,” for God has appointed only “one mediator between God and men,” Jesus.—1 Timothy 2:5; 1 John 2:1, 2.

Beyond a doubt, the Trinity doctrine has confused and diluted people’s understanding of God’s true position. It prevents people from accurately knowing the Universal Sovereign, Jehovah God, and from worshiping him on his terms. As theologian Hans Küng said: “Why should anyone want to add anything to the notion of God’s oneness and uniqueness that can only dilute or nullify that oneness and uniqueness?” But that is what belief in the Trinity has done.

Those who believe in the Trinity are not “holding God in accurate knowledge.” (Romans 1:28) That verse also says: “God gave them up to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting.” Verses 29 to 31 list some of those ‘unfitting’ things, such as ‘murder, strife, being false to agreements, having no natural affection, merciless.’ Those very things have been practiced by religions that accept the Trinity.

For instance, Trinitarians have often persecuted and even killed those who rejected the Trinity doctrine. And they have gone even further. They have killed their fellow Trinitarians in wartime. What could be more ‘unfitting’ than Catholics killing Catholics, Orthodox killing Orthodox, Protestants killing Protestants—all in the name of the same Trinitarian God?

Yet, Jesus plainly said: “By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.” (John 13:35) God’s Word expands on this, saying: “The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Everyone who does not carry on righteousness does not originate with God, neither does he who does not love his brother.” It likens those who kill their spiritual brothers to “Cain, who originated with the wicked one [Satan] and slaughtered his brother.”—1 John 3:10-12.

Thus, the teaching of confusing doctrines about God has led to actions that violate his laws. Indeed, what has happened throughout Christendom is what Danish theologian Søren Kierkegaard described: “Christendom has done away with Christianity without being quite aware of it.”

Christendom’s spiritual condition fits what the apostle Paul wrote: “They publicly declare they know God, but they disown him by their works, because they are detestable and disobedient and not approved for good work of any sort.”—Titus 1:16.

Soon, when God brings this present wicked system of things to its end, Trinitarian Christendom will be called to account. And she will be judged adversely for her God-dishonoring actions and doctrines.—Matthew 24:14, 34; 25:31-34, 41, 46; Revelation 17:1-6, 16; 18:1-8, 20, 24; 19:17-21.

Answer 9

That is a very good argument for the two being seperate.
I believe Satan wanted to rule and saw himself in part of that three some. As a holy ghost or something.

Answer 10

I am sorry, but I don't believe in the Trinity.

If the Trinity were true, it should be clearly and consistently presented in the Bible. Why? Because, as the apostles affirmed, the Bible is God’s revelation of himself to mankind. And since we need to know God to worship him acceptably, the Bible should be clear in telling us just who he is.

First-century believers accepted the Scriptures as the authentic revelation of God. It was the basis for their beliefs, the final authority. For example, when the apostle Paul preached to people in the city of Beroea, “they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.”—Acts 17:10, 11.

To fellow Christians the apostle Paul wrote that, even though there are many who are called gods, “there is actually to us one God the Father . . . and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ.” (1 Cor. 8:5, 6) The “one God” to whom Paul referred is Jehovah, the Creator of all things. (Deut. 6:4; Rev. 4:11) Appreciative persons who learn of his qualities and the things that he has done for humankind find themselves irresistibly drawn to him. With what result? It is only natural for them to magnify the One that they so deeply admire, doing so by both words and deeds. As their love for God grows, they feel impelled to tell others about him, and to the extent possible for them as humans they want to imitate him. The Bible encourages all of us to do that, saying: “Become imitators of God, as beloved children, and go on walking in love.” (Eph. 5:1, 2) To apply that counsel, we need to get to know Jehovah as he truly is.