How can Chirstans say Jesus (upon him peace) is a god?

Question

You see I believe in Jesus as a Prophet akin to the ebonites who were massacred in early Christianity. They did not believe in the Trinity which was something that wasn't accepted as a doctrine until after the 4th century at the behest of the roman empire.

The original message of Jesus has been changed because all the Prophets called to the worship of one GOD.

So did Jesus worship himself?

And if you believe that God can have a child and that God needs something to create something. Then how can what you believe to be God be all powerful? If he needed Mary to create something?

Do you see how none of the Christan doctrine makes any rational sense?

What the first commandment? "I am your Lord."

Second commandment, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Third commandment? "Thou shalt not make for thyself an idol"

So if you believe all this that came with all the previous Prophets before Jesus. Does that mean that they won't enter heaven? how can that be?

So if you believe all this that came with all the previous Prophets before Jesus. Does that mean that they won't enter heaven because they don't believe in the Trinity?

Or is it easier to believe that Christianity was changed by the enemies of God to add this.

Think about it. What I have said makes sense!

Islam is the only path of the Prophets left.

Most of the answers here are rejecting the view of the rest of the Prophets that God is one and there is nothing similar to him. Therefore you have rejected the first three commandments. Don't you see how dangerous that is?

You can you believe in the Bible that you have now? When its been chopped and changed over the years and the oldest
manuscipt isnt until the first century? At the nicean creed there was 200 books of the bible where are they now?

Ebounites were the true christans and they believed in One God and Jesus (upon him peace) as a Prophet.

If you read history then you see Paul hated the Brother of Jesus, James.
Many Christans of the day said Paul was a heretic and James the true inhertor. Paul was protected by the Romans because he was mixing paganism with Judaism which is what they now call Christanity.

Answer 1

add to that all the list of saints and the virgin mary and u have the most un-monotheistic religion of all! makes me laugh too

Answer 2

I asked a similar question like this yesterday and was told that I was going to go to hell because I didn't believe Jesus was God and therefore I wasn't a christian, and he had just learned about God and the Bible a year beforehand? *LOL*
I also found that although I recieved some very good answers quite a few contadicted themselves, but I'll answer your question by my beliefs and understanding of the Bible.
No, Jesus did not worship himself. He worshipped God, his eternal father.
Jesus needed to be human in order to help remove the stain of sin off of humans. He also sent Jesus as a man so that he would have a better understanding of humanity. A heck of a lot easier if that person is human and can tell it from a human point of view.
It does, but you sometimes cannot take the translatons as they are written. You have to read in between the lines or figure it out yourself.
No, they can and have entered heaven/nirvana whatever you choose to call it. The problem is some christians take the scriptures verbatum, and do not take into consideration that several people at several different times pieced the Bible together. They fail to think of cultural, political, or even personal beliefs that have/may have been added over time.
Some so called teachers, even twist meanings to suit their perspective.
All of this considered it does not surprise me that there are several misunderstandings and misinterpretations, between people and beliefs as a christian myself.
So is it any surprise that people doubt the validity, no. I can easily see your point and reasoning for questioining if christianity is valid or not, especially the Bible.

Answer 3

I believe in the trinity because the Bible teaches it. Since you were not around in the 16th Century maybe you don't know when it was first taough. It has been in the scriptures ever since they were written down.
The Holy Spirit is God:
1. He strives (Genesis 6:3)
2. He teaches (Luke 12:12).
3. He convicts (John 1:8).
4. He directs (Acts 13:2).
5. He makes intercession (Romans 8:26).
6. He inspires (II Peter 1:21).
7. He sanctifies (I Peter 1:2).
8. He is God (Acts 5:3-4).
9. He is truth (John 16:13).

One hope: This is that which is called that blessed hope. It is also called the catching away or rapture of the church (I Cor 15:51-53; I Thes 4:13-17). This is when we shall all not die but we will all be changed. This earthly body must be given a heavenly body. (I Cor 15:40-44). One Lord: There can be but one Lord for the Body of Christ and He is the Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us and rose again. This same Lord is also God:

The Lord Jesus Christ is God:

1. He has all power (Matthew 28:18).
2. He is all knowing (Col 2:3).
3. He was in the beginning (John 1:1).
4. He is God (John 8:58).
5. He gives redemption (Col 1:14).
6. He is present everywhere (Matthew 28:20).
7. He became a Man (John 1:14)
8. He created all things (Eph 3:9; Col 1:6).

One faith: This is not our faith but the faith of Jesus Christ (Romans 3:22; Gal 3:16). One baptism: This is the baptism of the Spirit that places us into the Body of Christ (I Cor 12:13). This is not the water baptism that was done in other ages.
One God and Father of all:
1. He makes covenants (Genesis 9: 1-17; Gen 12:1-3)
2. He is one God (I Chronicles 8:6).
3. He is a redeemer (Isa 63:16).
4. He is the master (Mal 1:6).
5. He is the I AM (Ex 3:14).
6. He is JEHOVAH (Ex 6:3).
7. He is by whom the whole family in haven and earth is named (Eph
3:14-15).
God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all God and all three are one.
1. The Spirit raised hi
2. m (Romans 8:11).
3. The Father raised him (Romans 6:4).
He raised himself (John 10:1). 8; John 2:19-20

Answer 4

Jesus is God. He is part of the trininty: God the father, God the son, God the Holy spirit.

God created us all. We turned away from him so he distroyed us in the flood. Having saved one who was without sin, Noah, the human race started again. God in all his glory, so much so, we can not fathom, created a part of himself, his son, to spend time on Earth, to teach us about God the father of all of us. With this gift, God also sent another form of himself, the Holy Spirt (pure love) to rain upon us.

Allah and God are one in the same - just different cultural perceptions, but most Christians and Muslims would agree. Jesus was a decendent from Abraham as was Mohammad. Surprise, we all are decendents from the same human race: going back to Adam and Eve.

Jesus was a prophet: the son of God, sent by God, spreading the word (the love of God) by God.

Think of Him this way: I am a father, a brother and a husband. I have a role to play to each (my children, my family, my wife.) I am three, if not many more "personalities" to different people. Yet I am still "me".

God is the Father, who came to Earth as a son empowered by Love to share with all humanity. God is the creator of all; Jesus is the son, or our brother (intermeadeary) to assist us to meet with and live with God. Yet all three are one in the same.

Jesus had different roles to play like we all do (being a father, or a mother, a son or daughter, a friend all combined into one person) the most important thing Jesus did, was to die for us all.

These two points are many that muslums can not understand; 1: the trinity: that God (Allah), Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all the same things, three different manifstations of One Entity. 2: God created you, Loves you, died for you. Because he wants you to be with him - but he gives you a choice. He needs you to come to the conclusing yourself freely.

Sadly, Christian history in years past, has done what Islam is doing today. Forceing people to believe in God (Allah) keeping them ignorant and scaring them into beliving. If you do not you were / are killed, burnt at the stake/ lashed, beheaded...! Islam today is no different then Christanity 200 to 500 years ago.

Answer 5

Jesus is not God. He is not "just a prophet" either.

He is the Son of God, in that he was created first by God, before anything or anyone else was created. He has been by God's side for aeons and he knows God very well. Right now he is the King of God's Kingdom, having been given that authority by God.

But they are not equal. Jesus worships God, as did the ancient prophets, and as do true Christians today.

Answer 6

Jesus(s) is not god, he is a prophet.....it makes much more sense to worship one God instead of 3 or 4 like the christians do

Answer 7

No, what you say does NOT "make sense".


When muhammed was inventing islam, he certainly did NOT understand either Judaism or Christianity. But, he certainly heard about both. As he was inventing islam, he specifically denied and rejected the divine nature of Jesus, Son of the one true God (I suspect because this would be in total opposition to his creation of islam). Most Christians will say that in so doing, muhammed therefore denied and rejected God Himself. Hence "allah" that is NOT God.

Christians believe that calling God "allah" is blasphemy and extremely disrespectful. Christians also believe that Jesus' coming marked the END of the true prophets of God.

muhammed could not grasp the concept of the trinity. And he effectively passed on his confusion to subsequent generations.

IF, for a moment, you truly do read the New Testament, you will find that it clearly defines, and makes available, the NEW COVENANT for forgiveness of sin and salvation of the eternal soul thru Jesus.

The Kingdom of Heaven is a place for the eternal soul. It's a spiritual place. It's NOT about having an orgy of sex, wine and food in the "shade of the sword".

There is a HUGE difference. Why did muhammed have to offer PHYSICAL rewards? Where is SPIRITUAL in islam?

Just my thoughts.


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Answer 8

Jesus even said He is God. The prophecies claimed He is God.

There is only one God - He is in 3 persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

When God was creating man, He said, "Let us...make man in our...own image." Angels do not create, so Who is "us"? In the Gospel of John, it starts with "the Word (meaning Jesus) was God...was in the beginning...nothing was created without Him". When Jesus, during His interrogation, was asked about His Kingship, He replied, "I am", which is the same "I am" Who spoke to Moses through the burning bush.

I must inform you that Islam is not the true path. It is a poor imitation started by one man who is now dead. The book he wrote, by himself, is false doctrine. The quran lacks continuity and Islam has nothing for hope for it's believers.

The Bible was written by quite a few Godly men over many years, from several different countries and cultures in 3 languages, yet has continuity, accuracy and reveals the hope God wants us all to have.

Answer 9

I do not believe in any God, no matter what name he is given. I am Buddhist, I believe in the efficacy and value of conscientious behavior from mankind.
To me any God by any name, is still a cowardly crutch to depend on.
There have been exceptional men, such as Jesus, who during their lives tried to teach us civility and unselfish brotherly love. But I believe he was only a very enlightened man, not the Son of any God. Because there is NO God!
As far as heaven and hell are concerned, there are no such places . . heaven and hell states exist within our minds, our morality, our respect to each other, the earth, the animals, all that, which is of nature.
I try my best to be more a good person than not, because there is logic in that!
I truly agree that Religion is the opiate of the people. Something alike a tranquilizer, so that one is drugged into a state of civility.
I'd rather be honest, and say out-loud that I do not need the comforts of a fabrication as man does so frequently and easily make, toward his convenience.
I have more faith in what would make a man conscious of his deeds, and act upon them. I would not be placing my trust on a man-made fabrication to feel protected, man already knows by grace of his intelligence, and basic awareness, that it is up to him alone to correct badly approached issues. But if he is lazy, and must pass it on to some invented ideology, in order to relieve himself from responsibility, then,fine with me. But I'll stay clear of depending on merely a man-made concept to keep me within the realm of civility, and responsibility.

Answer 10

Jesus is not God he is the Son of God.
He died on the cross in pain and poor,He asked no more of man than to believe in God and He said The Only way to Heaven is through Me,turn the other cheek,love thine enemies.
however mohammed died very rich and powerfull even falling out with his brother over the spoils,and also said kill the disbelievers,deny rights to Women obey islam or die.

Answer 11

You did your homework very well! What you say makes sense. But the question remains: Where is proof that Mohamed was inspired by God (Allah)?
And as long as there no proof of a God what so ever, why don't we just make the world a peaceful and wonderful place to live in, beginning with our own little surrounding? Just start doing to others what you would like them to do to you. I think it would be a good start.