Here is the question and details.
If you believe in eternal torment in a hell, how much time do you spend warning unbelievers each day?
If you really believe you must spend at least a few hours a day on street corners pleading with people and warning them about eternal torment. You can't believe in eternal torment without being consumed with a desire to warn people.
2007-12-02
03:29:42
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Diane - I see, if a blind person is about to walk off a cliff that he has already been warned about you will not try to warn him again.?
2007-12-02
03:49:06 ·
update #1
weaverin - No, if you believe in eternal torment you should be grabbing people by their shirts and throwing them up against walls and then screaming at the top of your lungs in their face!!!!!!!!!!
2007-12-02
03:52:26 ·
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good day - Your belief in eternal torment forces you to believe in God in a very negative way. Look at how you just presented our loving Creator. As "giving up on people" . God doesn't give up on people.
2007-12-02
03:57:13 ·
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weaverin - What is unchristlike about warning people about eternal torment?
2007-12-02
04:05:33 ·
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Diane M - Do really believe that many people are going to be burned alive? You don't sound like you believe it with your very indifferent attitude towards this topic. You sound like you never think about it. I mean you believe that people are going to be kept alive to be burned alive without mercy and unendingly and you will not even focus on this in your everyday life and talk about more? That makes NO sense!
2007-12-02
04:11:09 ·
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My purpose here is to expose the false, illogical, and satanic doctrine of eternal torment as presented by mainstream Christianity.
www.tentmaker.com
2007-12-02
04:30:17 ·
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good day - None of those verses teach that God gives up on people. None. They are talking about consequences to sin that those people will face on this side of the grave.
2007-12-02
04:39:08 ·
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There is also judgment and punishment after death, it just does not involve Jesus Christ burning people alive without mercy like so many Christians think. Its unbelievable to me that intelligent religious people believe that about Jesus!!
2007-12-02
04:44:14 ·
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Spoken4 - People realize how crazy the doctrine of eternal torment is and they want nothing to do with your religion. They are not rejecting the truth. Your false doctrine is to blame. You really need to look at www.tentmaker.com , you will discover the TRUTH about who Jesus is! Peace.
2007-12-02
04:48:54 ·
update #9
Excuse me, its www.tentmaker.org
2007-12-02
04:49:39 ·
update #10
good day - Go to www.tentmaker.org and find out what Rev 20 12-15 means. It doesn't mean what you think.
2007-12-02
05:03:20 ·
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good day - Thats what I'm talking about. God's word. And scriptures that are typically used to teach eternal torment don't teach it. You are misunderstanding God's word. You can't just look at your one translation of the Word. You have to look at more, to include the original greek and hebrew. I'm telling you that the original greek and hebrew words translated hell, DO NOT mean hell as taught by mainstream Christianity. At least do some research and see what universalists teach regarding the word of God before you choose to not accept it. Find out exactly why they insist that eternal torment is wrong. Then you can make an intelligent decision at least.
2007-12-02
13:16:43 ·
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Diane M - Yep, thats where the false doctrine, that teaches that Jesus has a torture chamber, leads to. Extremism.
The reason is, is because the false doctrine is extremism. There is no way around it. If you believe the false doctrine, you can't act like you do, like it DEMANDS. If you do, they will get you a rubber room.
My point is to demonstrate the absurdities of unending torment teaching. And there are many absurdities. Thats part of what identifies it as false doctrine.
2007-12-03
14:00:42 ·
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I warn people about hell, whether they believe or not is up to them.
My question is..
Why is it when Christians are warning people about hell in public, people claim that we are shoving our religion down their throats or we are judging them?
2007-12-02 04:36:31
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answer #1
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answered by Spoken4 5
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well now asking such questions can confuse them. An eternal hell to me would be impossible, so would heaven.
You face your hell and heaven right here on earth, though your Karma's. I have my belief, you have yours, and they have theirs. And no matter how illogical it may sound, it gives them faith to go living. Same with us.
You ask questions, for which even they don't have an answer to. Oh sure, Christ will come and only the meekest will survive the Armageddon, and will live in a wonderful world.
Do you know how it is to be dead, and face hell? Do They?
No one will know until they have died and come back after a day so. Until then lets not argue about what the Bible,Vedas, or Koran say about how we came about, instead concentrate on one universal message these beautiful books were meant to give, and that is PEACE TO ALL, LOVE AND TOLERANCE BETWEEN US AND THOSE OF OTHER FAITHS. Tell me one book where it says that you must hate those of other beliefs. It is not different religions and their sacred books that teach hate, its the one who read them do.
Teaching should be restricted to p laces of worship not street, and knowledge of these great books should be imparted without bias in schools. We were not born with a particular sign that that we are of this religion, rather man choose one over another, to keep people apart, not together.
2007-12-02 12:06:28
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answer #2
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answered by mx. know it all 7
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There is no such thing as hell and torment it is all the result of masculine desire to shut women up.
Men will do anything at all to take charge and maintain control over women. There are religions all over the world who not only do not want women in their churches but even insist that they hide their faces and walk far enough behind them to be not HEARD.
Once more.......God is love and only love. There is nothing else but love and I am not talking about copulation either. When God said that there is only love it was before the male of the species evolved from the self procreating being placed upon the earth by God so she could not have been referring to SEX...........Aramaic was not the origin of the Bible.....these tablets and the like were being copied from language to language hundreds of thousands of years before
the Summarians, the Egptians,the Greeks and the Romans in India and China......................The Indians new that God was a SHE long before the near east was populated.
2007-12-02 14:35:15
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answered by Anonymous
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Well, I "ignored" it because I never saw it.
Tell me - how many "unbelievers" do you think there are in Fort Worth, Texas, who've never heard of Hell? And just how effective do you suppose "You're Going To Hell!!" would be in convincing people to accept Christ?
Edit: "Indifferent"? Where did you get that idea? As to warning someone if they're walking off a cliff, yeah - you let them know. If their response is "I don't see a cliff, I don't believe in the cliff, leave me completely alone", then at some point you pretty much have to take them at their word. Either that, or your grab them, tie them down, and force them to walk away from the cliff. To move out from the analogy, that way lies compulsory religion - and I find that anathema.
2007-12-02 11:34:27
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answered by Anonymous
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Ok, I do warn them, but I am also told not to continually cast pearls before swine. I am also told that there are vessel fit for destruction, like Judas, who have a predestined role.
I tried all that when I was first reborn in Christ, but have since found that it is only my duty to tell them once. After that, God either renews them, or He doesn't.
2007-12-02 11:35:07
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answered by i_12_bright 2
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God will cause the rocks to talk and the mule to speak if "PEOPLE" are not there to send out HIS message....
If this is "YOUR" calling then get out there and do it but make absolutely certain that "GOD SENT YOU""or you will end up on the top floor of a psychiatric hospital somewhere in a straight jacket...
Good luck Friend
2007-12-02 11:35:46
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answered by Dog Rescuer 6
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PROVE IT!!
Why would you want to stand on street corners warning people of something you CANNOT prove? Nothing you have been taught about religion is backed by fact… hence the phrase “faith”
Stand on the street corners please, you might just find yourself in a nice safe place with padded walls!
2007-12-02 12:58:11
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answered by Anonymous
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I feel a certain disattachment. And if people don't believe, me pleading with them isn't going to change anything. They'll just think I'm some nutjob.
2007-12-02 11:36:13
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answered by hottieredhead69 3
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I think that atheists think that we Christians think far more about them, than we do!
I think about learning more about God in the bible, hardly ever about atheists unless I am on YA, and frankly don't know why they are under the religious section, unless they are seeking God in one form or another.
I also think the God works in each individual's life, atheists also - as He said knock and the door will be opened, but the atheist has to do his own knocking,
so it is really up to him,
not to another Christian to try to convince him of anything, it is their choice
and God is at work,
however,
He may also decide to just give up on
that person if there is no response
back to Him.
His decision, not mine.
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You may like to think that God does not give them up, but that this is what God says in His bible:
Romans 1:19
"Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them.
For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
Because that when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful;
but became vain in their imaginations,and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds and four-footed beasts,and creeping things.
Wherefore GOD ALSO GAVE THEM UP TO UNCLEANNESS through the lusts of their own hearts, ......"
Romans 1:28
"And they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND to do those things ...."
Reprobate = (Webster's dictionary)
1)a depraved or wicked person
2)a person who is beyond hope of salvation
3)morally depraved,wicked
4)being beyond hope of salvation
5)to disapprove, condemn, or censure
6)to exclude from salvation, as for sin
These are the words in the bible.
II Timothy 3:1-9
Titus 1:16
Hebrews 6:8
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After Death:
REVELATION 20:12-15
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
AND WHOSOEVER WAS NOT FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE."
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Thanks, but no thanks!
I think I will stay with GOD'S WORDS
not
the words of MAN!
or man
thinking that their words are more
valuable
than God's!
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The first sign at the end times is deception by man!
PS:
You know that after death, we will be in a spiritual body, I think that the lake of fire (hell)may refer to the death of the soul, this is the second death.
The soul is like a container that hold our physical and spiritual selfs. God owns our souls.
Perhaps when one's soul is gone through the second death, it is really gone like it never even once existed,
and all memory of that individual who died the second death will be gone eternally, even from the memories of those who do live on with God.
I have heard this teaching, only God knows what the future holds.
2007-12-02 11:50:35
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answer #9
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answered by good day 4
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sorry I missed you
2007-12-02 11:35:06
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answered by Od Ephraim Chai 4
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