This is not about a failed PT test. This is strictly overweight. What does the Army gain by barring a Soldier from reenlistment when wieght control is the only issue? The Soldier does not fall out of runs, can ruck like a champ, and others are surprised when they hear he busts tape.
Especially considering the money being paid to get new recruits, do you think the penalties in AR 600-9 are too harsh?
2007-12-01 11:45:24 · 7 answers · asked by Boom Blatz 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
Of course the Soldier could do this or that to pass the tape test. Why should he focus on that instead of any number of other things he could focus on that would be useful to the Army?
And he is not only barred from reup, he also cannot get any other favorable actions to include attending schools. Somehow wieght control changes one's ability to learn?
I thought I would find people that totally support AR 600-9 and could put it in common sense terms. The whole book is useless nonsense to me.
2007-12-01 12:06:22 · update #1
I, too, believe a Reg is a Reg, and Order is an Order, and a Law is a Law. You have to follow it. That does not make it right or preclude it from change.
I really want to hear from someone that disagrees with me so I can get perspective and learn why I might be wrong.
2007-12-01 12:30:28 · update #2
Nobody actually answered the question. At the end of the day it was a yes/no question and supporting info could have been added. I did, however, enjoy the posts.
I am putting it up to a vote.
2007-12-02 17:16:52 · update #3
I have seen fat guys run like the wind, and max PT tests, but because they are chubby they get the boot. That I think is wrong. If a "fat" Soldier can do his job then I think he should be able to stay. Also I think it should be at the commanders discretion in cases like this.
2007-12-01 11:51:32 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 3⤋
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2016-04-07 02:30:58 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
hey totally agree with you! I have been in for 4 years, for 3 of those years I was an E-2, but never ever failed a PT test, hell I got 260-270's, which is way above the minimum. I am not dumb by any means with a 120 GT score, but was flagged for being overweight. It took a 16 month deployment to lose enough weight to pass the tape, then got my promotions, but once it came time for me to get promoted, I am not thin enough to be an NCO, even though I have proven how much of an asset I am. AR 600-9 really needs a kick in the rear.
2007-12-01 12:20:07 · answer #3 · answered by Jopa 5 · 3⤊ 2⤋
That is a tough one to swallow. I haven't read any weight control ARs in 14 years and i am not about to now, but if this soldier is that good, I can't see how he could be overweight.
And if he is over weight I am sure there is still a time period given to pass the tape test. And if he were to build up his neck muscle. that could get him to pass the tape test.
2007-12-01 11:59:41 · answer #4 · answered by SFC_Ollie 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
I realize it's an Army Reg... and I'm ex-Navy, but YES.
It's a Regulation, it's set, and the soldier needs to adhere to it just as any other Regulation.
I recall the "chubby" sailors who were drilled-out in the 80's and 90's... TWO I knew were SAR swimmers and could run or swim 90% of their age group into the ground.
PERHAPS it's time to see if the DoD could relax some of those standards though.
2007-12-01 12:18:09 · answer #5 · answered by mariner31 7 · 3⤊ 3⤋
I have no issue with the penalites.
The issue I have is that the tape test itself is bogus. I haven't had to get a private body fat test done just yet, but it might come to that.
There is no way that 1 pound in 4 of me is fat.
2007-12-01 12:50:53 · answer #6 · answered by RTO Trainer 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋
True
I totally agree with you.
2007-12-01 11:52:31 · answer #7 · answered by MP US Army 7 · 5⤊ 5⤋