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Does the following verse say we only belong to the house of Jesus if we hold fast to the end? So if we do not hold fast wouldn't that mean we lost our salvation?

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

2007-12-01 10:47:24 · 44 answers · asked by Bible warrior 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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That is a debate..but I believe that if a person truly wants out of their salvation contract then they can get out of it..
I don't think this is something that you do accidental and you have to willfully turn your back on Christ..
If you couldn't turn back then that would violate your free will.
Losing your salvation is one thing, but what if I willingly want to get out of it?

2007-12-01 10:49:45 · answer #1 · answered by † PRAY † 7 · 6 6

The question is a paradox. Most christians will answer emphatically No, you cannot lose your salvation. They will say that you were never saved to begin with if it comes down to explaining the possiblity of lost salvation. I am christian and I believe otherwise. There are at least 3 verses in the bible which point to the possiblity of losing salvation.

1. Blasphemy of the holy spirit will not be forgiven in this world or the next.
2. Receiving Satan's mark during the tribulation.
3. Holding fast until the end.

It is a paradox because the scriptures contradict each other. It is possible that I misinterpreting them. I never claimed to be perfect.

I think you can renounce God after truly believing in him. I think you can lose your salvation that way. Like I said though most people will say you were never saved to begin with.

2007-12-01 11:01:56 · answer #2 · answered by Tim N 5 · 2 0

If all that God wanted us to know about salvation was contained within Ephesians 2:8-9 as based upon John 3:16 and reinforced by John 10:27, then it is likely Jesus would not have preached the parable of the sower (Luke 8) nor would he have said what he did in Matthew 7:22-23. Self-deception is a very real possibility. I do not find the sum total of the N.T. where salvation is concerned to be pointing to "once saved, always saved" but rather the importance of perseverence in the faith (which we have, of course, only through grace) so that we who are being saved WILL BE saved by standing firm to the end -- as in Matthew 10:22, 24:13, Mark 13:13, and elsewhere.

This doesn't mean being afraid that every little transgression would forfeit one's salvation; forgiveness is certainly ours. But in reading through the varied responses here I find a lot of confusion and frankly unbiblical thought. One that stood out was an interpretation of John 10:27 to mean no one can snatch them from His hand *including ourselves*. This would seem to indicate that the act of accepting Christ as Lord and Savior negates our free will thereafter, and even those who wish to walk away from Him -- and do so -- are still "saved", that is, going to heaven regardless.

Don't think so.

2007-12-01 12:37:46 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I beg to differ with the first answer you received. If we were "once saved, always saved," then we could theoretically revert to our old ways and worse,and still make it to Heaven. Salvation isn't a one-time event, it's a constant process, and a belief in Christ is only the beginning of the path there, not the end.

We need to live the principles of faith (believing and acting on God's word) and repentance (changing who we are, and sinning less) every single day, for the rest of our lives.

Yeah, holding fast until the day we die is going to be a long haul, but sixty or seventy years doesn't hold a candle to the eternity we can spend with our Heavenly Father, afterward. Definitely worth the effort.

Honestly, I don't think we'd be comfortable, living with someone so perfect, if we didn't spend as much time as we could trying to become more like Him, during this life and even afterward. That's why He's spelled out the "straight and narrow path" in the scriptures, and continues to send His word to us even nowadays (see www.mormon.org).

I hope this helps!

2007-12-01 11:02:27 · answer #4 · answered by Garrett 3 · 1 1

Confidence also means Endurance, so we are to hold fast to our profession or confession in Christ. You lose your salvation when you reject Christ, we are to be stedfast and hold on to the one who can take us to the end, and the Holy Spririt is the one to guide us and lead us unto all truth and he will teach you to do what it takes to run the race to the end. God bless you.

2007-12-01 12:28:58 · answer #5 · answered by Dove 2 · 0 0

Yes brother Edge I believe you can . I reall dont know how a person once he has truly tasted the goodness of Jesus could then walk away and reject him, but this verse seems to indicate that it is possible. Jesus was speaking to the church in Sardis when he said in Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

2007-12-01 11:01:29 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

Apostle Paul thought so:

Time and again Paul likens the Christian’s course to a “race” that must be run to the finish. “Let us run with patience the race that is set before us,” he urged the Hebrews. (12:1, AV) To enter the race, sinners must take the steps necessary for salvation: hearing and accepting the Word of God, believing in Jesus Christ and his ransom sacrifice, repenting of their sins and being baptized. In this way, they get saved “from this crooked generation,” as Peter exhorted those gathered at Pentecost. Unbelievers are outside the race, having failed to enter by getting “saved.”Acts 2:37-40.

Once entered in the race by being “saved,” a Christian takes “hold of the life which is life indeed.” But is it possible to lose that grip on life? Paul answers with this question: “Do you not know that in a race all the runners compete, but only one receives the prize?” In the Christian race, Paul indicates the “one” who receives the prize is anyone who finishes the race. Therefore, Paul urges, “So run that you may obtain it.” Then, using himself as an example to make the point of his illustration, he continues: “I pommel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.” 1 Tim. 6:19.

Evidently the apostle, who surely was a “saved” Christian, believed that even he could be “disqualified” from the race. Yet as long as he continued to ‘run that he might obtain’ the prize, thus remaining in the race, salvation was assured. This is why Christians who remain in the race can be said to ‘have everlasting life.’ But if they should ever quit the race, they are “disqualified,” losing their hold on everlasting life.

2007-12-01 10:53:00 · answer #7 · answered by BJ 7 · 3 2

Once you have been adopted into God's family, you can never lose your salvation. You can, however, not receive your full reward if you do not hold fast to the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

2007-12-01 10:51:27 · answer #8 · answered by RT 66 6 · 4 4

No one or nothing can take your salvation. Sometimes people get out of God's will. I believe it's in Ephs. it says we are sealed unto the day OF redemption.
If one gets out of God's will they need to repent . Once your saved your always saved- but its not a free ticket to sin and live out of God';s will.If this happens he will chasten you. ( PUNISH)
You see our Heavenly Father is sorta like our earthly father.There's nothing you can do once you accept Christ death for payment of sin that God would take your salvation.There's no verse of proof at all this will happen.
In Rev. it says your name will be blotted out if you add or take away from God's word. Then it can happen.Someone who is born again will not sin against the holy spirit.Sinning against the Holy Spirit is rejecting the Son of God. So if your saved you have not rejected his son.
If you have truly be born again and get out of the will of God- does not make you lost- makes you backsliden and you need to repent.No where is there a verse in the bible that says your salvation can be took from you NOWHERE.

One other thing I would like to add- I would not want to serve a God that if I made a mistake he would take my part of heaven away from me.No one lives above sin if they say they do then they are decieved.

2007-12-01 11:10:48 · answer #9 · answered by Ladybyrd 4 · 0 1

I believe we can loose our salvation by committing sins and going back to being wicked when we know in our hearts that it is wrong. Once you know what is required of you you can't go back to being ignorant again. But, I also believe that only God knows the true heart of a man and when we confess our sins and repent even at the last minute only God knows if it's in a man's heart to turn from sin. So, if we aren't doing right and we know it...... we'd better hope we have time to repent in the end right? That is my belief and I know that other people don't agree and that is ok too. Miss Mary

2007-12-01 10:55:09 · answer #10 · answered by MISS-MARY 6 · 3 2

Perseverance is evidence of salvation. A person that is saved may lose the joy of their salvation but they will never lose their salvation.

Salvation is the free gift of God. "The wages of sin is death but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ the Lord." Romans 6:23, See also Ephesians 2:8,9

Paul speaks about the christian life as compared to that of an athlete that runs a race. The race isn't for salvation, it is for rewards that only a saved person can attain. Unbelievers aren't even in the race.

2007-12-01 10:55:02 · answer #11 · answered by truthsayer 6 · 1 4

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