Jehovah's Witnesses believe that only 144,000 will go to heaven - only they are fully anointed by the Holy Spirit, only they are in the New Covenant Jesus introduced 2,000 years ago. They tell everyone else that they can have "a measure" of the Holy Spirit, but that the Holy Spirit does not inculcate in them a desire for heavenly life. No, they want to live forever on a paradise earth. The elite 144,000 are to govern over the inhabitants of this paradise earth.
The tradgedy is that if you are not in the New Covenant, then the shed blood of Christ does not cover you. Your sins cannot be forgiven. You have no assurance of salvation. Why, they don't even know if they are going to survive Armageddon (which is still iminent, by the way, 100 years after it was first predicted). And, even more shockingly, if they do survive Armageddon into the millennial reign of Christ, they still have no assurance of salvation (unless, of course, they continue to be obedient to their masters and do as they are told).
The Governing Body of the Watch Tower Society has carefully conditioned its members to settle for second best. It has been doing this for almost 100 years. About every 30 years they get a fresh intake - people who know nothing about the history of this organisation, people who are actively discouraged from doing any research or even thinking for themselves. I could weep when I think of how many people they've fooled.
Yet no-one seems to have sat down and done the maths. They expected Armageddon circa 1949 - which meant they thought the "elect" 144,000 must have been selected by then! Yet thousands more of the "elect" are still coming forwards to partake of the bread and wine each year. How can this be?
Anyway, point is God's promise of salvation is for everyone who accepts Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. Not just 144,000. God bless.
2007-12-03 07:56:17
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answered by Anonymous
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I think it is for whomever will believe! I have heard that number before in end time teachings as the number of people who will be saved, but I am not so sure that is accurate. I mean, how would any man know the mind of the Lord? The Lord says he is not that any man should parrish and he has come that we can all be saved, even if we all don't believe on him.
2007-12-02 09:40:20
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answered by Indya M 5
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You are a little flawed in your thinking in that the 144000 are the number of believers to be left on the earth during the period of the tribulation to try and win the remaining unbelievers to Christ. The Bible is for all who will read it and listen and salvation is for all who will accept it.
2007-12-01 11:25:14
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answer #3
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answered by Belgrademitch 5
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By your questions, it shows you were once one of Jehovah's Witnesses and has now turned apostate.
This question you now shows you once had understanding of the truth.
All people do benefit from God's word. Yes the bible was written for the anointed ones and all others benefit from His word.
You are one that must have been sifted out, Jehovah exposed you and you must deal with Jehovah God.
You show you feel resentment!!!!!
The answer is indicated by the fact that, after mention of the definite number 144,000, Revelation 7:9 refers to “a great crowd, which no man was able to number.” If the number 144,000 were not literal it would lack meaning as a contrast to the “great crowd.” Viewing the number as literal agrees with Jesus’ statement at Matthew 22:14 regarding the Kingdom of the heavens: “There are many invited, but few chosen.”
2007-12-01 10:15:34
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answer #4
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answered by Just So 6
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Harpazo = Rapture
END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY
The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.
The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.
The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.
The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.
The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).
The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).
The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).
The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).
The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).
The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!
The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.
THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)
The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.
There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.
A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.
The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.
During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.
MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)
The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.
Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.
The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.
The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.
The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.
The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.
The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).
Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.
THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)
In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.
Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.
The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.
At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.
THE MILLENNIUM
The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).
At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).
THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT
The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).
THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)
Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.
God’s Plan of Salvation for Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do
2015-03-21 05:36:15
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answered by Anonymous
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Nina, come on now. You know very well that you and I and everyone else benefits from the Holy Bible. Hey, but I like the thoughts of beautiful flowers, songs of the birds, and having a wolf as my pet! We too shall be as sweet and beautiful as the flowers and birds. I love to sing but I can't sing like a bird. I know I will see all of you beyond the city gates because everyone here is in agreement that we ALL love Christ Jesus. My fellow Christians, let us love another as Jesus loves us!
2007-12-01 10:51:34
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answered by Anonymous
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I did ask a very elder JW how the 144,000 were picked, and how many had been chosen at that time. (a decade ago).
His reply was there were still 7,000 to be chosen...which led to the assumption that they must know who has been chosen in order to know how many have been chosen.
Which led to the question, how do they 'know' who is chosen to be of the 144,000 ?
The answer was the answer of a man ''they, the elders, the ones who are chosen, 'they' know." ...I guess that was supposedly referring to some unsubstantiated revelation ... apparently 'watchtower' will let God know who's coming to heaven.
The teachings of the 144,000 by JW's is a major twisting of what the bible has to say about 12,000 picked from each of the 12 tribes of Israel in the end times.
2007-12-01 10:20:44
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answered by Homegrown Budds 3
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Truth 101
God's witnesses is Israel.
The house of Israel was divide into Ephraim and Judah.
This made two witnesses of YHWH.
Judah is the Jews.
Ephraim is the head of the other ten tribes.
USA is Ephraim
also includes UK and Canada.
These are the two lampstands
These are the two olive branches
These where the 144000 Kings and Priests are pick.
Israel is the Temple of God. That includes these United States of America
OD Ephraim Chai
Ephraim Lives
2007-12-01 11:00:50
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answered by Od Ephraim Chai 4
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The JW idea of the 144,000 being the only ones in Heaven is just ridiculous. Yes there will be a new Earth and new Heaven. I think we will be able to travel freely between the two.
Line Dancer - you do realize placeholder answers are against the rules. Right?
2007-12-01 10:11:55
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answered by Bible warrior 5
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Everyone applying Bible principles benefits, now and in the future.
Those to inherit the earth need not envy the 144,000.
There'll be;
beautiful flowers
bird song
gentle animals
plenty of our favourite foods
wonderful music
unpolluted rivers, lakes and seas to swim in
time to learn how to do anything you like
peace
no racism, terrorism, war
everyone will be kind and loving (no bashers)
perfect health
eternal youth
pure knowledge of Jehovah
no death
no mourning
no pain
satisfying work
good housing conditions.....
I could go on and on and on!
EDIT: Did I mention the food? Oh, yeah, I did.
2007-12-01 10:10:09
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answered by Anonymous
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