I read in the bible that sunday morning Jesus told mary he still hasn't gone back to his Father. Instead he was in hell...that is in the grave and temporarily ceased to exist (that's what hell is...annihilation! muahahahhaha!).
2007-12-01 09:50:08 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
excuse any typos, i got stubby fingers :S
2007-12-01 09:50:37 · update #1
No, the repentant thief did not go to paradise with Jesus that day. Furthermore, Jesus didn't tell him that he would. The translators of the Bible believed that the righteous dead go to Heaven as soon as they die and, therefore, that is the way they wrote their translations.
You see, neither the Hebrew nor the Greek had punctuation marks. Thus, the English could be translated either way:
"And He answered him, 'Truly I tell you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.'" (Luke 23:43 AMP)
"And He answered him, 'Truly I tell you today, you shall be with Me in Paradise.'" (Luke 23:43 AMP)
Therefore, the beliefs of the translators influenced the meaning of the English version of this text. This is proven out by the fact that Jesus said, on Sunday morning:
"Jesus said to her, 'Do not cling to Me [do not hold Me], for I have not yet ascended to the Father...'" (John 20:17 AMP)
Jesus would not have lied to either the thief or to Mary. Hence, we must understand that the translators changed Jesus meaning regarding what He told the thief.
2007-12-01 10:10:01 · answer #1 · answered by ♫DaveC♪♫ 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
when speaking to a repentant thief impaled beside him, Jesus Christ said: “You will be with me in Paradise.” (Luke 23:43) Did Jesus mean that the thief would go to heaven with him? No.
The evildoer would not have even entertained that idea. Why not? Because he would probably have been familiar with passages in the Hebrew Scriptures, which existed in his day, such as the first part of Psalm 37:29: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth.” Jesus taught that same truth, declaring: “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.” (Matthew 5:5) This scripture harmonizes with what is commonly called the Lord’s Prayer, which states: “Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.”
When Jesus Christ was hanging on the torture stake, he repeated the promise of a better world to an evildoer who showed a certain measure of faith in Him. “[Jesus] said to him: ‘Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.’” (Luke 23:40-43) What did that evildoer understand those words to mean? Did Jesus suggest that the evildoer was going to ‘be with him’ in heaven that very day, as certain Catholic and Protestant Bible translations would seem to imply? No, that was not what Jesus meant, since after his resurrection, Jesus told Mary Magdalene that He ‘had not yet ascended to the Father.’ Though they were taught by Jesus for three and a half years, prior to Pentecost 33Â C.E. not even his apostles contemplated a heavenly paradise. (Acts 1:6-11) That evildoer understood what the vast majority of Jews living at that time would have understood: Jesus was promising a better world to come on a paradise earth. One German scholar admitted: “The teaching of retribution in an afterlife simply does not appear in the Old Testament.”
Bible translations that insert a comma before the word “today” create a problem for people who want to understand Jesus’ words. Jesus did not go to any paradise that very same day. Rather, he lay unconscious in death for three days until God resurrected him. Even after Jesus’ resurrection and ascension to heaven, which was 40 days later.
In time Jesus will bring forth untold millions from their graves to enjoy this beautiful Paradise. He will do this in fulfillment of his own guarantee: “The hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will . . . come out.”
Among those Jesus resurrects will be the former evildoer who died beside him on the torture stake. Recall that Jesus promised him: “Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.” No, that man will not be taken to heaven to rule as a king with Jesus, nor will Jesus again become a man and live on the Paradise earth with him. Rather, Jesus will be with the former evildoer in the sense that He will resurrect him to life in Paradise and see to it that his needs, both physical and spiritual, are cared for.
2007-12-01 22:31:06 · answer #2 · answered by BJ 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
One proper translation for the Bible from the early writings of the Church fathers, apostles and Jesus would have saved us all a lot of grief!
2007-12-01 18:19:36 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
He told him that day, that he will be with him in paradise, that does not come until after the 1000 year reign of Christ. Rev.2:7;
2007-12-01 17:56:13 · answer #4 · answered by jeni 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
there is a suggestion that paradise was a place Jews went
BEFORE Christ was sacrificed...once Christ died they were
let out and could receive entry into heaven...
this is were the myth comes from about Catholic purgatory
as that now Christ is dead for our sins we don't have to wait
anymore but may enter therein as soon as we die....
2007-12-01 18:01:19 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
No. The comma is in the wrong spot. Comma is not after the word "truth".
"I tell you the truth today, you will be with me in paradise."
"I tell you the truth today" is a Hebrewism denoting, "I'm about to say something very important". Shalom
2007-12-01 17:56:46 · answer #6 · answered by Samar 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
He got stuck going to Hell with Jesus!... unless Jesus was pulling his leg...
2007-12-01 17:57:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
Yes!
2007-12-01 17:57:07 · answer #8 · answered by snookums 4 · 2⤊ 3⤋
Yes and that is not what hell is.
2007-12-01 17:54:02 · answer #9 · answered by Mariah 5 · 4⤊ 4⤋
stewie, quit typing with your nose
2007-12-01 17:54:06 · answer #10 · answered by ? 6 · 2⤊ 4⤋