What is your views on Jeremiah 10:23 ?

Question

Should Christians be involved in politics ?

Answer 1

God warns that "it is not in man who walks to direct his own steps" (Jeremiah 10:23). This passage here already speaks for itself.
No!.....God is in control of world affairs. There is nothing we can do that God hasn't already done that will effect the outcome of what He has planned. Humankind has had thousands of years to experiment with governments, administrations and lifestyles, so why have we been unable to solve our problems?

Human government has not succeeded because, in the final analysis, humanity simply does not know how to live.

Solomon, king of ancient Israel, put it bluntly: "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death" (Proverbs 14:12; 16:25).

Sadly, mankind has proved the truth of those words for generations. Under human rule, the world has never seen a time that was free of war, strife, turmoil and suffering. Conditions today are so grave that mankind has the ability to erase human life from earth many times over!

Our world is threatened by overwhelming problems because we have rejected God. God Himself has made this clear over the centuries through His prophets. Under God's inspiration, King David wrote of mankind: "They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none who does good. The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one" (Psalm 14:1-3).

The prophet Jeremiah also noted that humans are largely blinded by the deceit of their own evil motives and intents. "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?" (Jeremiah 17:9).

God does not need to watch the Weather Channel. He decides whether tomorrow will have clear skies or not. Jesus Christ said God “sends rain on the just and on the unjust” (Matthew 5:45). Occasionally, God withholds rain, or sends too much, to teach people lessons!

In his epistle, James describes how the prophet Elijah “prayed earnestly that it would not rain; and it did not rain on the land for three years and six months. And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth produced its fruit” (James 5:17–18).

So God has power to water a land or to dry it up. The same applies to the wind, cold, hurricanes and clouds. He uses this power on occasion to intervene in human affairs: “As when You break the ships of Tarshish with an east wind” (Psalm 48:7).

When Adolph Hitler rose to power, a noted German Lutheran minister, Martin Niemoller, perceptively stated: “Verily a time of sifting has come upon us. God is giving Satan a free hand, so that He may shake us up and so that it may be seen what manner of men we are.”

Hitler’s Europe was a mild precursor of what God’s inspired Word prophesies concerning the future revival of a satanically influenced “Babylonian-Roman system”: “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a habitation of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!” (Revelation 18:2).

It is a sobering thought to consider that some of the most important players on the world scene who are shaping our destinies cannot be seen. They are angels or demons! We need to be much more aware of the very real spirit world around us, and we must make absolutely certain that we are guided by the Spirit of God!

God Almighty is the One who makes and unmakes nations. He is the One who—thousands of years ago—foretold the soon-coming formation of a final European empire or “United States of Europe,” which He will use to punish America, Britain, Canada and the other nations!

In Isaiah 47:1, God speaks of a virgin daughter of ancient Babylon. He describes her future punishment: “Sit in silence, and go into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans; for you shall no more be called the Lady of Kingdoms. I was angry with My people; I have profaned My inheritance, and given them into your hand. You showed them no mercy; on the elderly you laid your yoke very heavily” (vv. 5–6).

Notice that God speaks of “My people” and “My inheritance.” Remember that the house of Israel is called “My inheritance” and God calls them “My people,” or “My house” or “My heritage” repeatedly throughout the Old Testament (Isaiah 19:25; Jeremiah 12:7–9).

Remember also that it was the ancient Assyrians who invaded and conquered the Ten Tribes of northern Israel.

But this prophecy pictures a daughter—a political, economic and religious system in the spirit of ancient Babylon—that will rise up in modern times and impose a “yoke” upon the physical descendants of God’s people, Israel.

Notice that she is called the Lady of Kingdoms, and that she says: “I am, and there is no one else besides me; I shall not sit as a widow, nor shall I know the loss of children” (Isaiah 47:8). To understand who this daughter of Babylon is, we should not use faulty human reasoning, but should let the Bible interpret the Bible. In Revelation 17, we find this same false system described perfectly.

The Bible uses symbols to illustrate spiritual concepts. Revelation 17 symbolically tells of a great whore, clothed in purple and scarlet, who politically lobbies and “gets into bed” with the secular leaders of this prophesied economic and politico-military power (v. 18). This scarlet woman represents a false religious system labeled as: “Mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and of the abominations of the earth” (v. 5). The “waters” where she holds dominion are “peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues” (v. 15). This evidently describes a type of polyglot federation or empire. Truly, as Isaiah prophesied, she is the “Lady of Kingdoms.”

Also, compare Isaiah 47:7–8 with Revelation 18:7, which states: “For she says in her heart, I sit as queen [have power], and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.”

The Apostle John wrote that, in the end-time when this prophecy was to be understood, “there are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time” (Revelation 17:10).

Serious students of prophecy realize that the sequence of five kings refers to the “Holy Roman Empire” which, under five different “kingdoms,” dominated Central Europe and the Mediterranean region for more than 1,000 years, from late antiquity to the early 19th century. By transforming and reinventing itself repeatedly, this political system proved as hardy as any tenacious weed. Its most famous heads were, in chronological order: Justinian, Charlemagne, Otto the Great, Charles von Habsburg and Napoleon.

John also wrote of a sixth kingdom—“one is”— that would be ruling when this prophecy came to be understood in the end-time. That kingdom was the revival that culminated in the Hitler-Mussolini “Axis” of Italy and Germany during World War II.

Now, as we watch end time events coming together, we know that one final king “has not yet come.” That leader is “waiting in the wings” to emerge on the world stage—within the lifetimes of many of you reading this.
In conclusion, the answer is that God is working out His plan in dealing with humanity over a 7,000-year period. For the first 6,000 years, God is allowing humanity to experiment with various forms of religion, education, government and culture. Through spiritual emptiness and physical and emotional agony, humanity is now writing the lesson in human suffering that man’s ways always turn out to be wrong. Having learned this lesson, humanity will be far more ready to listen genuinely when Jesus Christ returns and God does open their minds and hearts.

Answer 2

(Jeremiah 10:23) . . .I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.

One reason why the governements of the world are failing is that God did not give man the wisdom or right to govern himself. (Jeremiah 10:23) Thus, no man-made organization, however well intentioned, can succeed in bringing peace and security.

Modern day religion is, for the most part, very much a part of the world, so it shares in the world’s celebrations and reflects its nationalistic spirit. Its clergy often acknowledge that fact, and many of them like it that way. In sharp contrast, Jesus said of his true followers: “They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.”—John 17:16.

When a Christian has a different view, that God's Kingdom is the only way for a true ruling to occur they remain neutral in politics, knowing that God is the absolute only one who has the qualities and the desire and the ability to bring lasting peace.

Answer 3

What that has to do with politics is that it points out that a man has no right even to direct his own steps- how can he direct those of others?

True Christians do not involve themselves in politics as Jesus said we are to be no part of the world, and as everyone knows- you cannot be in politics and be clean. There's the saying "Politics is a dirty game." (John 6:15; 17:16)

Besides that, all rulerships are under Satan's power, being involved in politics is putting oneself under Satan's influence. (1 John 5:19)

True Christians look to God's Kingdom as the real solution to mankind's problems. We obey the laws of the government, do not try to subvert their authority. (Romans 13:1-4) But we keep neutral in all political matters.

Which makes for great international unity among Jehovah's Witnesses. (Psalm 133:1)

Answer 4

What does this have to do with politics?

Jeremiah 10:23-24 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
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Jeremiah's Prayer
23 I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own;
it is not for man to direct his steps.
24 Correct me, LORD, but only with justice—
not in your anger,
lest you reduce me to nothing.

Answer 5

I have performed so earlier than and often will achieve this once more. No topic how suitable 2 men and women are, they're by no means going to agree on the whole lot. Even if each participants of a pair proportion a natural religion, they're more likely to nonetheless have quite specific interpretations and critiques involving that religion. It does most likely make it less complicated if each participants of a pair agree on a few natural foremost ideals; It makes it tougher if the 2 ideals conflict in train. A courting need to be headquartered on openness and mutual admire.

Answer 6

No. Mankind was not created to govern himself. That should be evident by the countless govenments that have failed.

In the near future, that will change. Dan. 2:44 says: "In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite.”

True Christians do not engage in worldly politics.

Answer 7

This verse does not address the issue you raise: Jeremiah, as were all the Hebrew prophets, was deeply involved in what we would now term politics.

Answer 8

Jer 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

All people are involved in politics, no matter what their background, in a Democratic society.

Answer 9

23 I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own;
it is not for man to direct his steps.

I'm not sure what this has to do with Politics one way or another. We should be involved through prayer and exorting our leaders to do things God's way. We are to seek and desire righteousness.

Answer 10

It proves man should not be in charge of directing any group of humans. We do it only to our injury. 6,000 years of human history has proved every human government has failed. Each had one or two good points but many, many bad. They all failed to give humans the life they intended.

Today, are goal should be the government Jesus taught us to pray for in his Model Prayer. For God's Kingdom in heaven to come rule the earth. Only that one can actually solve problems without creating a hundred more.

Answer 11

cause the ways of man are corrupt...

and himself he is not able to go the right directions
His steps need to be lead of God

For we make mistakes and need correction...

and it goes on to say correct me O Lord but with judgement and not with anger lest thou bring me to nothing..

the Creation needs its Creator !!