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Are we jew's?
Why do christians circumcise their children and try to live under the law?
Are we not free.
Why do we put this yoke around our necks?
This is how we fall from grace.
Faith not works of the Law.......
Repent of works of the law Hebrews ch 6:1
Repent-

2007-11-30 17:57:50 · 15 answers · asked by erickallen101 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Check out acts 15:9-10 and remember this is Peter talking and not Paul.

2007-11-30 18:07:29 · update #1

15 answers

You are right on with most of this.

You might want to do a study on repent/repentance. You will discover that to repent is primarily defined as turning to God, and not some "I'm sorry" for breaking the law.

Realize that Gentile Christians could not have "repented" of breaking a law they were never under or a party to.

Also note God "granted" them repentance; the ability to turn to God seeing as prior to this Gentiles could not turn to God.

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2007-12-02 11:09:14 · answer #1 · answered by Hogie 7 · 1 0

I did not know that Paul had "disciples". I thought that he helped people to understand the Risen Christ. I also know that he did, in fact, teach about keeping The Torah, goodness, he was aleading Hebrew. To make things even more upseting for you probably, Jesus never told us to not celebrate the things like The Sabboth, The Feasts and other like things. Even on the day of His death, Jesus' Disciples where so committed to The Torah that they waited for Sabboth to be over before going to recover the body of Jesus. If jesus taught other than keeping the Law, then why did they wait? In the Book of Acts, there is record after record about where the Apostles, Paul as well as other disciples of Jesus gathering at "the synagogues" on the Sabboth Day's to learn and to worship. No one ever said it got changed. Faith, if you read your own Scriptures fully through, results in an obedeience to the Law, but not for our salvation. there is your difference and were so many people get lost. If we love The Lord, WE ARE to keep His Commandments, but NOT to achieve our salvation, AS A RESULT of our salvation. Sorry to bust your bubble..

God Bless and guide you into all His Truth.

p.s.
between Acts 15:29 and Acts 21:24, what is the problem that one group has that is different from the other? One is for Gentiles, which since they are without the Law do not need to go to the Law, and the other is for the Jews, which are raised and schooled in The law and actually that was THE ONE WAY that the Apostles show to the Jews, Jesus. They always used THE SCRIPTURES.

2007-12-01 02:26:31 · answer #2 · answered by xgarmstrong 3 · 0 0

The letters that Paul wrote were letters to people who'll be on the earth in the last days, not the time period that he wrote them. Throughout the ages people has believed the Paul wrote to certain people who was living at the time he wrote, but actually the man who's name was Paul used his hand to write letters to people of the future and he didn't know who he was actally writing to. He was only writing for God, not for himself. God told Paul what to write.
ALso what people hadn't known is that God's name is also Paul. Which is the reason God had that man, who's name was also Paul, to do the writing.
That technique used to get the letters written helped God to delusion sinners.
When people see where Paul wrote, "I Paul", the people would think that Paul was speaking of himself. In reality when Paul wrote, "I Paul", he was actually saying, " I God".
If you've read the things in the old testament when God would speak to the Son of man, instructing him. You should have notice some similarities between the instructions God would give to the Son of Man, and Paul would give the same instructions to a certain person he wrote to.

2007-12-01 02:17:46 · answer #3 · answered by tiscpa 3 · 0 0

Jesus is the end of the law for those who have believed upon Christ. The Law is still a good guide line but Christians are to live in the way of love which is the fufillment of the law.

2007-12-01 02:11:13 · answer #4 · answered by Gabriel 4 · 0 0

Back then the Ten Commandment were related to Moses and that related to the Jews..... Paul/Saul didnt want Jesus be connected to the Jewish church (cause they conspired against Christ) and because his focus were for the Gentiles to know the Good News

2007-12-01 02:11:21 · answer #5 · answered by AsteRisque 3 · 0 0

Paul's mission was to teach the Gospel, the Good News of Christ's atoning sacrifice on the cross...available for all who believe.

2007-12-01 02:16:15 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If you read through Paul's other comments, he states that Christ came not to condemn us to the law but to free us from it. This included ALL of it. It was no longer needed for us to know all of the laws and commandments of the old testament. All that was need was faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ, and repentance. If you follow the law than you are more likely to go astray but if you follow Christ than you will never go astray. He was trying to teach his disciples to follow the life of Christ.

2007-12-01 02:05:52 · answer #7 · answered by ChaRiaLer 4 · 0 2

When Jesus fulfilled the law, the law became null, and those who accepted Jesus' sacrifice fell into the umbrella of grace that Jesus created. Being that we now share Jesus' grace we now are above the law as well and live to fulfill God's plan for us. If we try to abide by the law we fall from God's grace being that we are imperfect and sinful. However if we accept Jesus' sacrifice sin ceases to exist and our mission is to fulfill God's particular plan for us.

2007-12-01 02:10:26 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

In Romans 3:31 Paul wrote:

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

What law was Paul establishing here if not the 10 Commandments. Clearly, the old covenant laws related to animal sacrifices and the like were abolished at the cross. The real Lamb of God had come. There was no further need to keep those laws that pointed forward to Christ as our sacrificial Lamb. The 10 Commandments, however, did not point forward to Christ at all, but were established in Eden.

Why was it wrong for Cain to kill Abel? Why was it wrong for Noah to get drunk and for his son to make fun of his nakedness? What evil were the preflood humans doing that caused God to destroy the world if there was no law to break? Why was it wrong for Abraham to lie about Sarah, his wife? Why was Sodom and Gommorrah destroyed for licentiousness? Why would it have been a sin for Joseph to sleep with the wife of Potiphor? Why was Abraham called out of Ur of Chaldees away from the worship of idols? Why did manna fall from heaven six days out of seven, but not on the Sabbath even before the 10 Commandments were uttered from Mount Sinai?

The old covenant failed because it was based on bad promises (the people's not God's), bad sacrifices (goats and bulls not Christ), bad santuary (built by man not God), bad priest (sinful not sinless like Christ), bad ressurections (Lazarus still died, those who are ressurected at the second coming will never die) etc.

The new covenant is based on Christ and His righteousness. He was faithful where OT Israel was unfaithful. He overcame where they were overcome. He became NT Israel and his followers Spiritual Israel. Those promises meant for OT Israel could not be fulfilled not because God was not faithful, but because the people were not faithful and the old covenant was based on works. The promises can be given to Christ's followers not because we any more faithful than OT Israel but because Christ is faithful and has overcome for us.

When Paul speaks about works of the law, he is talking about those who insist on trying to work their way to heaven by following the failed OT old covenant. In no way is he trying to do away with the 10 Commandments. They are the basis of the government of God. Where would any government be without a set of laws by which to govern? Keeping the law does not save us. We are saved but the grace of God. However, that does not make the law of God void. We are still expected to keep the 10 Commandments, and we are given the power to do it as well. Of this Paul is abundantly clear. God's endtime people are described by John the Revelator as those who keep the commandments of God. What commandments are these if we are no longer meant to keep them? Which commandment would you like to do away with? murder? adultery? stealing? honoring your parent? having no other gods before God?

The Psalmist writes, "the law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul, the testimony of the Lord is right, making wise the simple". If the law is so perfect, there is no need to do away with if or to get out from underneath it. In fact, the works are the law are combined with faith in the true christian according to James. Faith without works is dead. A person living by faith will keep the law. Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments".

2007-12-01 03:41:00 · answer #9 · answered by 19jay63 4 · 0 0

Paul was basically rewriting god's word with his own beliefs. He wrote practically the entire new testament.

How can those who believe in the bible dismiss most of the old testament laws, which clearly state they are gods words, with the new testament, which are clearly Paul's???

2007-12-01 02:05:53 · answer #10 · answered by Captain Cod 6 · 0 2

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