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The anti claim that "illegals" jump the line in front of, or in place of pending immigrants IS A FALSEHOOD.

Pros..be careful Anti's will use this as a tactic to divide and claim false moral highground....ask them to tell you the title of the immigration laws or visas....watch them stutter and turn paler than kkk ghosts


if ANTIS your not AFRAID to have your perception challenged click on the following:
http://reason.com/news/show/119879.html

all the info can be cross-refrenced at http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis

; ) CHEERS!!!


as a BONUS question


WHY are Antis SO ignorant on the subject they try to debate...as I speak to more antis....most DONT know the difference between H1-b and H2-b visa???? or the clauses of the DREAM or SAVE act


and they SHOUL know the SAVE act!!!!!!...hahhahahhah

2007-11-30 16:11:24 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Immigration

This is of course GENERALY...I have met many antis that are on there game......but this explains to me why the MAJORITY of antis are SO misinformed and have such SKEWED misperceptions.....so I forgive them a little.......


but IGNORANCE is no excuse and just means that WE PROS have that much more to do to EDUCATE our fellow Americans in there time of need.....

saludos mexicanos
G-d bless
Di-s bendiga

2007-11-30 16:11:40 · update #1

16 answers

you are beginning to sound like a mad man....the simple truth of the matter is that illegals are to cowardly to stand up and fight for their respective countries....they rather flee than fight ...they are not patriots they are traitors and the stench of their cowardly hearts is overwhelming.

2007-11-30 16:41:30 · answer #1 · answered by bgdadyp 5 · 11 2

The last time amnesty was granted all of the cases from the illegals had to be processed first, before everyone who had been waiting to immigrate legally. CIS (then Immigration) was so busy that Immigration officers on the line had to help out and process tens of thousands of cases just to help them get caught up. There is a finite number of people available to process immigrants and there is already a long line. If we add 10 to 20 million people to that what do you think will happen?

Also, please do not try to debate visa classes with me, I am a CBP Officer. I would like to think I am more than just a little up to date on the subject. I also do not care about the SAVE Act or the DREAM Act, because that is exactly what they are, a dream.

2007-11-30 17:52:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

Illegals are parasites it doesn't matter what their race (since you mention race)

I am going through the legal immigration system with my wofe and it is long expensive and slow. Illegals just come and do whatever they want and break all our laws. I am a fool for following the laws. Fortunately I no longer respect the foolish idea of the rule of law. I will just start doing what I want.

One thing I enjoy doing is calling and emailing my federal and state representatives weekly. This makes them crazy and I demand that they send me responses in the US Mail to slow them up even more. They've sold their souls to Mexico City so this makes them insane...

2007-11-30 19:43:02 · answer #3 · answered by spqr_us 3 · 1 0

I would bet that more Americans knew the clauses of the failed acts you mentioned then border jumpers know of the laws pertaining to immigration and how to go about obtaining legitimate passage into this great country.
At the same time, there would be little to no reason for the vast majority of Americans to know the difference between the types of visa you mentioned, and at the same time I again would bet that on a percentage basis there are more people here legally that know the difference then those who are here illegally. Jumping in front of the line is more a figure of speech and tends to favor illegals that do not even acknowledge their is a line in the first place.

2007-11-30 16:25:12 · answer #4 · answered by joeandhisguitar 6 · 7 3

There are quite a few flaws in that article
"The so-called problem of illegal immigration is purely the creation of America's restrictive immigration laws."
Answer this:
say i live in a home with two bedrooms, i have a child a year, and every year, i have just enough money for 1 more room.. what do you think would happen if i have 2 children in one year? i wouldnt be able to afford another room, so there would be problems
This is exactly what the current immigration laws are about.
We set limits on the number of immigrants, based on our countries economic growth. If you bring in 1 million immigrants a year, and you only create 500,000 jobs, you are going to be #^#^$#$!!
Where exactly are you going to get the money to pay for the increased unemployment?
"The closest equivalent to an H-1B visa for non-agricultural unskilled workers - the bulk of the illegal population -- is an H-2B visa"
WRONG, the closest equivalent to and h1b visa is an eb3 visa. The eb3 visa is for unskilled workers, it is a permanent visa, and all that is required is simply two years training in a field.
"But amnesty has a long and honorable history. It was first used in the Civil War when the victorious Unionists employed it to give Confederate forces a pass from prosecution. In the 1980s, it was a popular tool of state governments to encourage tax compliance. Governments elsewhere have used amnesty to prod their citizens to turn in their guns."
Preamble to The Constitution
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America

"The anti claim that "illegals" jump the line in front of, or in place of pending immigrants IS A FALSEHOOD."
This is an impossible point to argue (for or against). This would be based on a certain illegal immigration reform bill.
If we look at the general vision of AMNESTY, then absolutely, this would be telling the people wanting to follow our laws, that they shouldnt have bothered, they could just have crossed over and would magically become legal citizens.
But if we talk about mccains bill, then fining illegals, forcing them return to their country and wait behind legal immigrats to become citizens is exactly that.

being said, i fully support the dream act. No child of illegal immigrants should be punished for their parents crimes. These children did not choose to come to this country, therefore we cannot turn our backs on them.

2007-11-30 19:49:55 · answer #5 · answered by Andrew 7 · 1 3

First off you have a problem in your question, "anti- immigration", I'm not , like others anti-immigration, I am however against people cumming to this country, my country, with out going through proper channels, period.
Not very hard to understand.

2007-12-01 07:38:48 · answer #6 · answered by Dave M 7 · 0 0

LoL @ the (ask your mommy) answer. Hehehe It is a game played by pygmy aborigine cannibals AFTER they have "eaten" a "missionary" in "the position". The bones are "laid" either in "doggy" or "froggy" style to be "jumped" and each "bone-her," as it is called, is then buried in a dark, moist cavern until it "comes" time to "pull out"and pass around a "piece" pipe. Or it could just be sex... Hehehe. That was fun:)

2016-04-07 01:05:19 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I do not agree with people being allowed to immigrate into the Country illigally. And I do not think that I am uninformed. People need to follow laws. My family had to before coming into the country, so why should others be allowed to "skip over" all the protocal? It's not fair to others no matter what. And GOOD citizens follow the law.

2007-11-30 16:31:43 · answer #8 · answered by K 4 · 5 4

It means instead of waiting for a visa and entering the country illegally they just ignore the law and break it.

You claim anti-illegals are ignorant and then demonstrate the same attribute over and over again.

2007-11-30 16:15:42 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 7 5

Here is some info for you.
Why is the backlog different for Mexico, China, India or the Philippines?
There actually are two separate quota systems in place. The first quota system limits the number of people who can apply in each category, regardless of their country of birth. The second quota limits the number of people who can immigrate from any one country (this goes by the place you were born, not your nationality!). This per-country quota says that no country can send more than 7% of the total worldwide immigration (this translates to 25,620).

Immigration led to a 57.4% increase in foreign born population from 1990 to 2000.[3] Controversy has arisen over existing immigration law and immigration outside the law, especially over the 7.5 million illegal alien workers with more than 12 million household members already inside the U.S. Another 700,000 to 850,000 are predicted to enter each coming year. Illegal household members from Mexico alone were estimated at over 8 million.[4]. At issue has been whether immigration laws and enforcement were working as the public desired.

Bureau figures show that the U.S. population grew by 2.8 million between July 1, 2004, and July 1, 2005.[5] Hispanics accounted for 1.3 million of that increase.[6] If current birth rate and immigration rates were to remain unchanged for another 60 to 70 years, the U.S. population would double to 600 million. The Census Bureau's estimates actually go as high as predicting that there will be one billion Americans in 2100[7], compared with one million people in 1700 and 5.2 million in 1800.[8] Census statistics also show that 45% of children under age 5 are from a racial or ethnic minority.[9][10]

In recent decades, the source of immigrants has changed considerably. The flow was almost entirely from Europe in the early twentieth century, but, between 1991 and 1998, approximately 31% arrived from Asia and 49% from Latin America, with the largest segment, about a quarter, coming from Mexico. Moreover, the average education and skill level of immigrants has declined markedly in comparison to the U.S.-born population. In 1960, about 66% of immigrant men had not graduated from high school versus 53% of native men – a gap of 13 percentage points. By 1998, however, the high school dropout gap had ballooned from 1960’s 13 percentage points to 25 percentage points. (This growth of the gap occurred despite rising education levels of immigrant men, whose high school dropout rate fell to 34%. The native-born dropout rate fell even faster to only 9%.) Currently immigrants account for 31% of high school dropouts in the workforce, although they make up only 12% of the overall workforce.

Partly as a result of this widening education gap, the pay rates of immigrants and U.S.-born workers have diverged. In 1960, immigrant males were paid about 4% more than native men, but immigrants were paid 23% less by 1998. The newest immigrants (whose proficiency in English is lower and whose skills aren’t as adapted to the U.S. labor market) did even worse. In 1960 they earned 13% less than natives, but by 1998 they earned 34% less.
Since the elimination of national-origins quotas in 1965, the United States has been experiencing a new wave of mass immigration. The prolonged, stalemated debate that culminated in the passage of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) reflects a national consensus to curtail but not to halt this influx, which currently amounts to about 600,000 legal, and 100,000 to 300,000 or more illegal, immigrants each year.

Now read all of that and tell me that by crossing a countries boarder illegally and then demanding amnesty or some such thing, that they are not trying to cut in line.

lets hear it.

2007-11-30 16:49:03 · answer #10 · answered by TLB 5 · 6 2

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