Well, I would say that it was more than a mere coincidence that there is such Pagan influence as relative to the origin of the Pope's clothes as discussed.
Take for example some other potential influences:
1) EASTER: As per some of my research and as established in various versions of the Catholic encyclopedias, the name Easter is derived from the Pagan celebration Estre. This pre-Christian name represented a festival of the Anglo-Saxon Goddess of Spring, Fertility and New Life and the rabbit (being an extremely fertile animal) and an egg were symbols used in that celebration. Perhaps your question can be answered with these type of questions: Why would such a holy (and one might argue - immaculate) celebration such as 'the resurrection of Jesus after death' be associated with that Pagan name and be celebrated on the very day that the Pagan worship was originally celebrated? Why would those symbols be adopted or even merely accepted as part of 'Christian' celebration considering that they represented festivities and were sponsored by activities that God would view as detestable? Keep in mind that some historians would establish that the pre-Christian festival of Estre was historically celebrated with sex orgies.
2) TRINITY: At about the same time this Easter celebration was established, it was officially established that Jesus was divine and almighty God was a triad god. Note: A Christian today might unarguably agree that the Jews were Gods people up until the point that they rejected his son. Well, before they did reject Jesus, how DID the Jews worship God? Did they believe God was a Trinity? Since God does not change, how could one argue that Christians worshiping a Trinity (a mystery) is correct? Could not yet more Paganism have influenced in this area in regards to God and his son's nature? Keep in mind; triad gods were not uncommon in Paganism.
3) Potential source: Consider the source of these established implementations of supposed Christian worship. Constantine had pre-Christian relationships with Pagans. Were the above (to only MENTION some) "Christian" implementations of worship a compromise of true Christianity, with the goal to achieve unification between Pagans and Christians under Constantine's rule?
These are just some questions that may perhaps answer your question and hopefully, influence people to ask more questions and seek the truth about God and his kingdom, for I believe there is much more support for these questions I represent here, and I believe there ARE answers to them! To each his/her own as to whether such compromises were true and acceptable to God. To each his/her own whether such implementations of what I associate as Paganism are coincidence.
Seek with an honest and humble heart and I believe you will find.
With sincerity of the heart I leave you.
2007-12-03 06:03:40
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answered by TRUTH 2
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+ The Mitre +
The mitre or (from the Greek μίÏÏα meaning 'headband' or 'turban'), is the traditional, ceremonial head-dress of bishops and certain abbots in the following Christian Churches:
+ Roman Catholic Church
+ The Anglican Communion
+ Some Lutherans
+ Eastern Orthodox Church
+ Eastern Catholic Churches
+ Oriental Orthodox Churches
The mitre is based on the head-wear of ancient Jewish religious leaders.
The mitre is the hat worn by bishops, the successors of the Apostles, who Jesus chose to be fishers of men.
By a slight coincidence, the Philistines (remember Goliath) had a fish god called Dagon.
By the same slight coincidence, the Pope's hat is connected to the H. Salt Fish and Chips franchise. http://www.hsalt.com/main.htm
+ The Crozier +
The Bishop's shepherd's staff called a crozier is based on Jesus calling Peter and the Apostles to feed his sheep and lead his flock. A bishop bears the crozier as "shepherd of the flock of God", See John 21:15-17.
Crosiers are used by high ranking religious leaders in the following Christian Churches:
+ Roman Catholic Church
+ Eastern Orthodox Church
+ Anglican Communion
+ Some Lutheran and Pentecostal Churches
By a slight coincidence, many people in ancient times used walking sticks including some priests of Dagon the Philistines' fish god.
With love in Christ.
2007-12-01 22:57:04
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answered by imacatholic2 7
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With the rise of Chgristianity, the cult of Dagon the fish god saw great decline. The priests of Dagon the fish god donated their robes and vestments to the second hand stores of Rome. Since early Catholic priests took a vow of poverty, they had to go to the second hand store to get their robes. The robes and vestments they picked up at teh second hand store were the old robes of priests of dagon the fish god.
In a related note, incense began being used to cover up the smell of fish from the second hand vestments.
2007-11-30 19:11:58
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answered by Sldgman 7
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I'll be damn, what a coincidence! Probably for the same reason that the vestments of the priests of Dagon the fish god were similar to that used by the Jewish priests before them.
2007-11-30 19:13:33
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answered by Brian D 2
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The physical resemblance between a bishop's miter and Dagon is purely coincidental.....
Not much is known about Dagon and those that worshipped him. (Why would Catholic Church choose to emulate the worship of a pagan god that was essentially a nobody in the pantheon?) Worship of Dagon died out in by the 4th century at the latest.
From Wikipedia:
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The god Dagon first appears in records about 2500 BC. He is mentioned occasionally in early Sumerian texts, but only becomes prominent in later inscriptions as a powerful and warlike protector. In the preface to his law code, Hammurabi calls himself, "the subduer of the settlements along the Euphrates with the help of Dagan, his creator." In an Assyrian poem, Dagon appears as a judge of the dead. A late Babylonian text makes him the underworld prison warder of the seven children of the god Emmesharra. It is likely that Marnas was the Hellenistic expression of Dagon, whose temple was burned by the Roman emperor in 402. The sanctuaries paving stones were used by the Christians to pave the public marketplace.
There is a tradition that the name Dagon is related to the word dag, in Hebrew, which means fish and that Dagon was imagined in the shape of a merman (similar to the Babylonian fish-god Oannes). In 1928 the theory was asserted that Dagon was never originally a fish god, but once he became an important god of maritime cities he evolved (much like he evolves in other cities from god of agriculture to god of the dead) into one.>>
The history of the bishop's mitre is so completely disconnected in time from dagon to make it the most implausible of scholarly leaps to say that the two are related.
From Wikipedia:
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In Western Europe, the mitre was first used at Rome about the middle of the 10th century, and outside Rome about the year 1000 AD. The first written mention of it is found in a Bull of Pope Leo IX in 1049. By 1150 the use had spread to bishops throughout the West.
In the West, the mitre is a tall folding cap, consisting of two similar parts rising to a peak (like the Pope wears). In the East, the mitre is based on the closed Imperial crown of the late Byzantine Empire. It is made in the shape of a bulbous crown, completely enclosed. In the Coptic tradition, bishops wear a ballin, wound around the head like a turban. Syriac bishops wear a richly embroidered hood.>>
From Catholic.com:
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As regards shape, there is such a difference between the mitre of the 11th century and that of the 20th century that it is hard to recognize the same ornamental head covering in the two. In its earliest form the mitre was a simple cap of soft material, which ended above in a point, while around the lower edge there was generally and ornamental band. Towards 1100 AD the mitre began to have a curved shape and to grow into a round cap. In many cases there appeared a depression in the upper part. In about 1125 AD these round curves had developed more into horn like points on either side of the head. This mitre transitioned into the type of mitre we most see today, which is pointed in the back and front, instead of left and right. Up until the 14th century this mitre had been more wide than tall, but from then on the mitre slowly but steadily increased in height. Another change in the 15th century was the sides were no longer made vertical, but diagonal.
In the Greek Rite liturgical head covering weren’t worn by all bishops until the 18th century, before that only the Patriarch of Alexandria wore one. The Greek mitre is a high hat which swells out toward the top with a cross on the top.>>
Historians can’t even decide what he was the god of, much less how he was depicted. Depending on which city you lived in, you probably worshiped him differently. His religion died out in the BC years for the most part, although it’s possible there were a few hangers on as late as 402 AD. But the mitre doesn’t appear until the mid 10th century. And then there’s the problem that the mitre itself has gone through many stages, most of which don’t look anything like the representation that the anti Catholics claim to be identical to the fish head of Dagon’s priests. And then there is the fact that an entire sect of Catholicism (the Eastern Rite Catholics) don’t wear the Western style mitre to this day. Doesn't sound too plausible does it to claim that the bishop's mitre resembles Dagon the Fish god....does it?
2007-11-30 20:51:40
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answered by Sister Spitfire 6
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Good Question
I've always wondered that myself
2007-11-30 19:24:28
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answered by mw 7
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