do you realize that christmas is from a pagan holiday and that the traditions of giving/receiving presents, hanging holly, hanging mistletoe, putting up an evergreen tree, and eating ham are all derived from the PAGAN holiday....
2007-11-30 10:20:21 · 33 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
>> Christan's you know Jesus probably hates [you] for
>> celebrating Christmas?
You meant to say "you" instead of "your" and, as such, you're way off base. Jesus is hurt more by your misrepresentation of Him than by those whom are "innocently" keeping Christmas.
Jesus never hates a sinner -- only the sin. I'm not saying keeping Christmas is necessarily a sin. But I certainly won't keep it as it is not one of the Holy Days God Himself established.
No matter how spiritually you keep man's traditions, you honor Jesus more by keeping the Holy Days God established from the beginning. See the following reference material.
Steve N:
>> Try reading the New Testament.
>> E.S.& D. fool
You've obviously not demonstrating any kind of a Christian attitude with such profanity, my friend. Jesus is *really* upset over that one.
2007-11-30 10:28:51 · answer #1 · answered by ♫DaveC♪♫ 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Funny question. You do realize that Saturnalia was December 16th, eventually extended as a week-long celebration to the 23rd, but never the 25th.
You do realize that December 25th was the Winter Equinox in 5-6 BC and that early tradition states that the prophet Jesus was born on the shortest day of the year. He was to bring 'light' to the world as exemplified by the lengthening of the daylight as commonly occurs after the equinox.
You do realize that Augustine who had access to the Roman archives sought and found the birth record of Jesus, that He was born on December 25th in the small town of Bethlehem. Unfortunately those records were destroyed in the early 4th century by marauding Germanic tribes.
You do realize that three Iranian astronomers came and gave gifts to the baby Jesus.
Christmas is not from a Pagan holiday, but it has gotten muddled by one.
You're right, holly and mistletoe are Druidic, though eating ham would merely be a slap in the face to Jews.
Jesus doesn't hate Christians for celebrating Christmas, but He might despise the WAY they celebrate it.
(BTW, double check your use of apostrophes. You've turned a plural into a possessive.)
2007-11-30 11:03:14 · answer #2 · answered by Brian D 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Christmas is the day that we celebrate the birth of Christ...
Many newcomers to the faith were keeping their old pagan practices, so the church decided to place many of their celebrations on the same days as the pagan holidays, in hopes that the pagan traditions would be forced out by the new Christian ones. Unfortunately, it backfired and the people simply intergrated their old practices into the new ones, which is why we have the strange amalgation of practices. The giving of gifts, and singing carols are based off of biblical things, but the rest are all pagan practices intergrated into the holiday.
I seriously doubt Jesus hates Christians for following the traditions, especially since they do it in the spirit of honoring him.
2007-11-30 10:32:42 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
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2016-10-09 23:25:24 · answer #4 · answered by clam 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have NEVER decorated during Christmas time; I am aware of the Pagan traditions. During Christmas time, people usually remember Jesus' arrival on earth, and not the Pagan rituals and such; therefore, it is acceptable.
Matthew 2:11 - "And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshiped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh" - is why I give and receive during that time.
Jesus does not hate anyone. That is where you are wrong.
2007-11-30 10:27:00 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Where are these pagan ideas found? Seriously, I want to know. I was an adult before I heard of such. I grew up knowing/experiencing non-religious holidays. But never such talk as Christmas and Easter being pagan, heathen,etc. Where can I research this?
2007-11-30 10:26:33 · answer #6 · answered by paula r 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
We all know many Christian holidays and themes are from pagan origins. No one is denying this but we celebrate Christmas in honor of Jesus. We don't worship the pagan Gods/Goddesses. The purpose of the holiday is different besides paganism probably borrow many of their beliefs from another older religion.
2007-11-30 10:31:04 · answer #7 · answered by cynical 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
i understand that the holiday is a pagan holiday and i am fully aware of His word. i don't have a Christmas tree and i don't tell my nephew about Santa. we tell him about the pagan holiday but we still celebrate Christ.
what you don't seem to understand is that Jesus does not hate me for giving to my family and friends with a cheerful heart and for being with family and friends during this season.
2007-11-30 10:26:00 · answer #8 · answered by Ms. Lady 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Not all christians celebrate christmas. I'm a Jehova Witness ...and we don't celebrate Christmas or any holiday. So not all christians celebrate it.
Being a pagan holiday is not the only reason we don't celebrate it... but also because we don't believe he was born in December. Nowhere in the bible does it say the exact date when he was born, nor does it tell us to celebrate it; there isn't any indication that his followers celebrated his birthday either..
In Luke 2:8-14 it says:
2 There were also in that same country shepherds living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks. 9 And suddenly Jehovah’s angel stood by them, and Jehovah’s glory gleamed around them, and they became very fearful. 10 But the angel said to them: “Have no fear, for, look! I am declaring to YOU good news of a great joy that all the people will have, 11 because there was born to YOU today a Savior, who is Christ [the] Lord, in David’s city. 12 And this is a sign for YOU: YOU will find an infant bound in cloth bands and lying in a manger.” 13 And suddenly there came to be with the angel a multitude of the heavenly army, praising God and saying: 14 “Glory in the heights above to God, and upon earth peace among men of goodwill.”
According to the bible..there were shepards living out-doors with their flocks when Jesus was born... so Jesus couldn't have been born in a winter season... he must have been born in another season in which permitted these shepards with their flocks to be out. Plus is unlikely of Caesar to force the volatile Jews to trek to their home cities for registration during the cold and rainy season.
It was not Jesus' birth but his death—and its history-making significance—that he commanded his followers to commemorate. And that's what we do.
Luke 22:19,20 says:
19 Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “This means my body which is to be given in YOUR behalf. KEEP DOING THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME.” 20 Also, the cup in the same way after they had the evening meal, he saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in YOUR behalf.
even though I personally don't celebrate it, I don't think that Jesus or Jehovah God hate people that do...so i'm gonna have to dissagree with you there.
2007-11-30 11:39:16 · answer #9 · answered by Jolly J 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i know! he's so mad at me! how dare i celebrate his birthday and give gifts to my family in honour of the gift he was to the world on the day of his birth! and how dare those Magi give him gifts either! and call him a King! (matt ch 2;) that's just rotten!
And, yeah, it's pretty common historical knowlegde that Jesus wasn't born in December, BUT 'christ-mas' (the 25) is just the day chosen to celebrate his birth. (kinda like a national holiday in HONOUR of him..... like all of the other national holidays that honour dead people. *thinks* sheesh, at least God gets Christmas and Easter if nothing else!)
♥ Oh! and erm.... i don't eat ham. (pig flesh) i'm a vegetarian.
♥ I'm not big on mistletoe as it's like a permission slip for pervs to want to smooch me;
♥ Um, well, i'm all in favour of the tree though.... mine is cute. It has little white flowers on it, and my girlie ornaments with all the ribbon and pearls. and my velvet angel and all the others.
I have some cute snowmen if you'd like one!!
♥ Oh yes, and since i honour God all year long, and make it a point to give him special honour on Christ-mas, i uh, don't think he's offended that i give presents to my fam & friends.
Yeah..... he's not bothered, trust me. Read your Bible. :)
2007-11-30 10:35:47 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋