how comes im the bible god always helped the jewish people, and helped them win battles and KILL non christians.
i mean...he could have made the non christians realise that HE is the true god....but in the bible it goes on sbout jewish people being 'his people'....wot bout the rest of the world????
AND 'his people' couldnt even b botheres 2 w8 till moses went up the mountain 2 get the 10 commandments ( they made an idol) and yet he forgives THEM!!!!
i was just wondering, coz its kinda unfair on the rest of the people...........
2007-11-30 10:00:36 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Yeah, I see what you mean. This is how I see it...
God's plan is vast... much bigger and all-encompassing than is first apparent. It's not true that he does not save the rest of the people... which I will explain later on.
Firstly, the Jews were God's chosen people for a couple of reasons.
(1) He needed to establish a race of people who would remember God, and who would be able to eventually bring forth his Son, the Messiah.
(2) The race of people he raised up for this purpose needed to be both religious and barbarous. Why? It has been said that no other nation on earth would have killed their own Messiah. If Jesus had not been unjustly crucified, then God's plan of salvation (for everyone) would have been frustrated.
Jesus life, mission, death and resurrection are CENTRAL to the salvation of the whole world... not just Christianity. We should never exclude sincere people from that salvation, because there will be a time when all people, both living and dead, will have heard the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and felt within their hearts which way they want to go. This life is not the only opportunity people have to learn and grow (the afterlife still allows this... see 1 Peter 3: 20 - http://scriptures.lds.org/en/1_pet/3/20#20 )
God does not forgive unrepentant Jews. See Luke 12:48 - http://scriptures.lds.org/en/luke/12/47-48#47
2007-11-30 10:14:55 · answer #1 · answered by MumOf5 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well it all started with Abraham. The story of Abraham begins in Genesis chapter 11. now all the world was still veery very sinful, if you read the previous chapters God first had to wipe out all of mankind but 8 with a flood, and also had to confuse all the languages because man was perpetually evil. So now God looks across the Earth and finds a man who is still righteous, Abraham (or Abram at that time). God is pleased with Abraham for not conforming to this world and awards him by making a convenant with him, found in Genesis 12:1 - 3 "1 The LORD said to Abram, “Leave your land, your relatives, and your father’s home. Go to the land that I will show you. 2 I will make you a great nation, I will bless you. I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you, I will curse. Through you every family on earth will be blessed.”
So now the seed of Abraham are to be the blessing to the world, and all blessings come from God so basically the hand of God in the world. Therefore when they came up against pagan nations it was deeper than just a battle with flesh and blood, but the Jews represented God, so in essence it was a battle between God and Satan, and of course God always prevails. So that passage answers the bulk of your question.
So now when it comes down to the time of Moses we see a people that aren't quite what Gods people are suppose to be, they turn away from God and make idols and worst than that they were not the blessing to the world that they were suppose to be. So God had to continually train them and teach them to have faith in Him, and to be noble people for Him yet they still could not quite get it right. But because of the covenant God made with Abraham He would not destroy them because God is Just. But the story doesnt stop in the old testament. the seed of Abraham continued and eventually Jesus Christ was born and renewed the covenant with His death and now made it possible for all of us to become Abrahams seed (spiritually of course) Jesus did the work of reaching out to the non-jews that the jews should have been doing all along. So now the children of Israel continues in Christianity, and we to are suppose to be a blessing to all the world, and I pray that this answer has been a blessing to you.
2007-11-30 18:28:15 · answer #2 · answered by pastor2Be 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God can't just make people believe in him. That takes away their free will. From the beginning of time the Jewish people were God's chosen people. If you are messing them. You are messing w/ God. As such, he helped them battle and win. All people are welcome to embrace the gospel. The gospel is very clear about that. God forgives us when we sin, if we but ask. Whether it is concerning making an idol, lying, etc. God is always fair/just. God's ways are not our ways. We must always remember that.
2007-11-30 18:11:56 · answer #3 · answered by paula r 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Jews are an example of how God should deal with us. Christianity is how God has chosen to deal with us with tolerance, compassion & love and by His grace we have been saved. The Isrealites do remain God's chosen, it is by them that we lrearned about God & by them that He gave us salvation through Jesus Christ our Savior, need I say more? Amen!!!
2007-11-30 18:22:37 · answer #4 · answered by GREGORIOUSITY 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Great question! I will tell you what I believe:
The Bible says that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." That means that every single human being ever born has sinned. The Bible also teaches that God is perfect and just, and as such cannot tolerate sin. "The wages of sin is death...*," So every single person who has ever been born is deserving of Hell and death and destruction.
But, the Bible also says that God is Love. He is merciful and gracious. He wants people to have a relationship with Him, which is why He created us in the first place. He can't have a relationship with sinners because He cannot stand sin. As a symbol of that holiness, the Israelites were commanded to kill the people who lived in the land they conquered. This was to protect them from the pagan influences of those peoples, and to maintain their purity and holiness (holy is literally "set apart").
This is where the rest of that verse above comes in, "for the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." You see, God chose to do something about our sin, and came to earth as a man in the person of Jesus Christ, who was truly God and truly man. Jesus lived a sinless life, and then died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sin. Because he died in our place, we are now free, and better yet, are credited with Christ's righteousness! He took our sin upon Himself and put His righteousness on us! Hallelujah that He saves sinners such as me! When I read the Old Testament and see over and over again Israel messes up and God forgives them, I see God's mercy and grace. I also see a parallel between Israel and myself! Admit it, who doesn't go through cycles like that of messing up, then getting straightened out, then messing up again! I am so thankful that God is a God of forgiveness, no matter how many times we mess up!
However, Jesus death does not automatically cover all human beings. It covers the sins of those who believe in Him and trust Him as their savior. Is that unfair to the ones who don't believe? No, they are getting what they deserve. It is only out of mercy and grace that the ones who are saved are saved! Those who believe in Him are "His people." In the Old Testament that was Israel, in the New Testament and today, that is Christians (though not all who call themselves Christians truly are - just like not all Israelites were saved).
God was not obligated to save or to bless anyone, yet out of His mercy he chose to save some and to bless some (His chosen people, those who believe in Him). Saying that is not fair, or is evil, because others are not saved is like saying you are unfair or evil if you give a quarter to one homless guy and don't likewise give a quarter to every homeless guy on earth. Do they deserve it? NO! It was a gift you chose to give to one. That shows your generosity, not your mean-spiritedness that you didn't give it to all the others.
Sorry this is so long, but I really wanted to give you a thourough answer (and even this could have been much longer!). I would like to encourage you to continue your study of scripture and keep up the good questions!
2007-11-30 18:32:26 · answer #5 · answered by Nita W 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Good question. He also wiped out the entire world except for Noah and his family. What about the babies and children? What did they do to deserve it?
2007-11-30 18:04:54 · answer #6 · answered by Hydroman 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Some people listen to him anywhere to his glory; others do not; then and now. The 'non-Jews' could join his people if they chose to.
2007-11-30 18:18:29 · answer #7 · answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
actually he kills the people worshiping the idol.
the jewish people were his people because they were faithful to him, the rest of the world wasn't.
how often do you refer to people that hate you as "your people" honestly?
2007-11-30 18:10:40 · answer #8 · answered by Tom H 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
They are the choosen...the rest are sol
2007-11-30 18:05:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
that is the old testemant when there was no christianity.
2007-11-30 18:04:58 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋