Even if god was real. How Can I respect a god, who sends human beings to do his job(Jesus, Muhammad and all the other prophets) deliver his messages and gives certain clues, hides things and challenges you to find it for your self, sets us up for failure so that he can burn us. Why didn't god just say, "look, I created everyone and everything" plain and loud for all to hear. by the way, what kind of father, would let his son be humiliated and beaten and battered and hung on a cross for him to bleed to death??
2007-11-30 07:25:43 · 18 answers · asked by LetsGetReal 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I agree that the "atonement" scheme doesn't work. God arbitrarily sets the rules, deliberately acts to make a single infraction possible (without educating his naive charges), convicts and determines the sentence, refuses to offer amnesty, then... (waiting) ... arranges the exoneration without any meaningful participation by the offender. It sounds like a kid play-acting with his toys. If you say you liked the story, you end up in the nice toy box instead of the nasty trashcan. If God is supposed to give our life "meaning", I don't see how this helps.
To transcend natural limits, "God" almost HAS to be a matter of faith. Certainty just turns him into a very capable space alien. I can live with a God who works behind the scenes to help people understand the paradox of material life, that "winning" and "losing" are illusions dependent on one's point of view. I can even get behind the idea of "God" (or a special human) living, struggling and dying to show people how self-preservation should be subordinate to truth. But if the stakes are eternal and the evidence is nebulous, only a petty monster god could operate that way. It's nonsense. On the other hand, if the "afterlife" were morally neutral, how is that different from the here and now? The only rational deity would be no different from no deity at all.
2007-11-30 07:58:33 · answer #1 · answered by skepsis 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yeah free will is so over-rated.
Sorry i don't mean to be sarcastic.
To be consistent with the scriptures it says in there that none have seen God and lived.
And even if God screamed out "i made everything!" Would that mae you believe?
Also He can't be in the presence of evil. Bac before the fall of man in the garden of eden God did in fact mae himself visible to Adam. it says that Adam hid from God. But when the fall of man came God could no longer reveal himself to man. Neither could man directly communicate w/ God untill Jesus died for the undoing of the fall for all who believe.
That's what christians believe. i suggest getting info from both sides before deciding that faith is uncredible. Read a bible to and find these answers for yourself.
2007-12-01 06:13:39 · answer #2 · answered by katie 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm a Pagan we do not have any of the above. We take responablty for our own action, never ask why did god/goddess do something to his and rarely ask them for things. They gave us a brain we use them and take control of power ourselfs. I often wonder how Christians can grow up sane given the faxt they beleive in a being that well punish them forever for just being human.
2007-11-30 07:53:48 · answer #3 · answered by raven blackwing 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Unfortunately, God hasn't "sent" anyone to do any of that for him.
That is where organized religion tricks people.
It sounds like you want to believe in God, but are disallusioned by the "messengers".
I believe in God, but cannot subscribe to any religion because I am not on this planet to follow anyone...except God's way. That is love in any society, any language. I don't have to join a club to believe. Every religion has invented their own rules and fees and gimmicks, yet believe all the other religions will burn in hell.
Can't wait for the televangelists to get audited by the IRS.
2007-12-01 04:05:16 · answer #4 · answered by gg 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Before Jesus, the Jews knew God. But chose to reject Him. In judges they repeatedly rebel and then cry out for help. God helps them, then they rebel again, and when they are in trouble they cry out again... So as a great merciful God, He came as a man to be the Living Sacrifice to pay for the repeated rebellion and sin once and for all. As you say, it was a humiliating and horrible price to pay. So just think of how God must feel when we reject and ridicule the sacrifice He made to give us a way to be with Him for eternity. But alas, you don't believe any of it anyway. So what's the problem? :)
2007-11-30 07:35:24 · answer #5 · answered by BopMom 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
its good that you don't have a religion, because you would probably make it look bad.
I'm not going to try to change your mind. the devil has already whispered his sad lies to you, and he is happy that you belive in him.
its almost impossible to change the mind of a non-believer. because no one can really believe, unless its true in their hearts and soul. unfortunately you don't even belive souls are real.
and god must send human beings as messengers to him. if god came down here himself, we would all pass out of seeing such a powerful being. for example, Muhammad, PBAH, asked god if he could see him. god only let him see a very very small potion, and the second he saw God, he was unconscious for 2 weeks.
and FYI, jesus is not god son.
how can you respect yourself or anyone else if you cant even respect god.
no offence man.. i really don't see the logic in your understanding
so tell me.. how does it feel not haveing anything to live for in your life? if you don't belivein and after life what do you live for?
2007-11-30 07:38:03 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
when humans cannot explain tragic things, or they're desperate, or they have to cling on to hope, or they're elated and need someone as an outlet for their gratitude
....their god is a handy universal scapegoat. In his time, it's his will, he works in mysterious ways, he has a purpose...wawahwaawaaah blaaablaaabalaaaah. Crap!
god is the opium of fools, the desperados and the hopeless.
I was a catholic christian, an active campus crusader but what good did it do me? I was just fooling myself.
2007-11-30 07:34:20 · answer #7 · answered by purple21 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
RAMEN! If life is a test of faith then what a waste of time, money, lives, and pain. All this to get into heaven and feel nothing but good all the time? NO THANK YOU.
2007-11-30 07:36:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Agreed.
2007-11-30 07:31:52 · answer #9 · answered by S K 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You are keeping the notion of God limited to what the Christian Bible says.
2007-11-30 07:29:17 · answer #10 · answered by Buying is Voting 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋