Golden Compass..and Narnia ...hah. Is he crazy?

Question

I had a very good laugh...
when Philip Pullman contemptably labelled The chronicles of Narnia as "Religious Propaganda"
Ha. what a joke...he is a bigot...but thinks that everyone else besides himself is. He's aloud to write a book with admittantly "anti-God" claims, to put it mildy, but CS Lewis isn't aloud to write a book with a Christian unlying theme.
I'm no relgious person, but I can't stands fools like that.

Allowed...I knew there was something wrong there...oh my.
My point is, that Pullmans public disrespect and disregard for the religious is disgusting. Lewis did not attack others beleifs on his books...he simply took a positive stand for his own.
The anger and hate for the religious is getting out of hand...it seems we like to throw all religious people into a box thats says they are idiots....take a look at the IMDB board of golden compass...so offensive to Christians especcially.
yesterday i saw a girl I knew reading a Christian book of some sort....a group of kids walked up to her and began being total jerks....they demenaed her and the beliefs in there words, and one of the boys took her book and ripped the front cover off before throwing it to the ground. This shouldnt be tolerated.

To the confused.....I believe that Narnia is more than propaganda...it is actively a Christian piece of fiction that doesn't try to hide under deceiving allegories, etc. So there you have it...
And to others, especcially miss purple_k...uneducated....Obviously i am to you, because i disagree with you....
Double starndars and pervasive...they enter every part of out lives...but can't we PLEASE try to avoid them....
I've read narnia, and parts of "compass", and as an unbiased observer....narnia is a sweet tale for those who believe such things...it doesn't attack or disrespect, like the golden compass does.

Answer 1

Comparing Pullman to Lewis is discrediting Lewis to the highest degree.

C.S. Lewis was a brilliant intellectual and a man who cared deeply for people. Even people whom disagree with Lewis have immense respect for him. Never once did Lewis hide his chrisitan position, but proclaimed it both in deed and word.

Pullman is doing this passive agressive thing that is just dishonorable and intellectualy dishonest. Pullman does not wish intellectual discussion but prefers to have God and religion be killed and silenced as the main characters do in the final book of his trilogy. It is bigotry. I think it's also dishonest to try and hide the more anti-religious themes in the book by the makers of the movie in order for it to appeal to a wider, christian, family audience. In other words, their position is: "lets not make the movie so overtly anti-religous so we can make money from the very people the book is slamming." At least they should stand by the source material.

If Pullman ever actually read anything by Lewis other than his children's books, he may decide to reconsider his atheistic position as Lewis did before becoming a fervant christian.

"Anti-narnia" indeed.

Answer 2

It wasn't that C.S. Lewis wasn't _allowed_ (not aloud) to write a book with an underlying Christian theme. He did. I haven't read Phillip Pullman's statement, but from some perspectives the Narnia books are "religious propeganda." I enjoyed most of the books, but found "The Last Battle" to be far too heavy handed. I expect that Mr. Pullman is not demanding that the Narnia books be banned, just trying make a statement about the truth of them.

I'm currently listening to the audio book of The Golden Compass and can see some of the areas of contrast with Lewis' approach. For one thing, I've already seen issues of moral relativism. One character is introduced in such a way that we initially look upon him as a villian. Later, when we hear his own words, we find that he did not enjoy taking the steps he did, but he felt that it was his only option. He has every reason to believe his opponant poses a threat to society as well as someone he cares about.

The world of The Golden Compass is not as black and white as the world of Narnia.

Answer 3

Where did anyone say C.S Lewis isn't 'allowed' to write a book with a Christian 'underlying' theme? Besides it's written and done so why do you care?

Have you read the Pullman books? I'm reading the first one now and it seems as pro religion as it is anti. In fact I just got to the part where the protagonists said a prayer over a dead boy. Doesn't seem to anti religious so far...


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"Pullmans public disrespect and disregard for the religious is disgusting."

Pullman is free to express his opinion just as others who are protesting the movie are doing. And frankly his criticism is pretty tame compared to what some of those opposed to him are saying.

"The anger and hate for the religious is getting out of hand"

I hear this notion of a 'war on religion' so often from the Christian fringe and yet the truth is that in general the US has bent over backwards and walked on eggshells to accommodate Christians to the point that they have for decades received preferential treatment in the the law, politics and pretty much every where else.

It's actually these absurd cries of persecution that is drawing so much attention to the fact that Christians get preferential treatment. What those crying call persecution is actually a long overdue movement toward something resembling fairness.

Trust me if you think there is persecution of Christians in the US now, truly fair and equal treatment is the last thing you want. The best thing for christians would be to keep their heads down and stop drawing attention to the fact they they get so much preferential treatment.

Answer 4

Um Narnia is religous propoganda - it's supposed to be an allegory of Jesus' sacrifice - do you see atheists demanding it be banned? No. Phillip Pullman hasn't even demanded it be banned .

You're clearly not a (well) educated person either.

His Dark Materials kicks the Chronicles backside

Why don't you read it first before attempting to comment on it

Answer 5

Did you know that C.S. Lewis was actually allowed to write the Chronicles of Narnia? It's true. The collective *they* even made it into a movie.

Answer 6

cs lewis overtly wrote the chronicles of narnia as religious propaganda. (lewis was a former atheist who was converted by his friend jrr tolkien).

people might find your ideas more convincing if you checked your facts before posting.

Answer 7

He wasn't saying that Lewis shouldn't be allowed to write the book, he just called the book religious propaganda, which it is. Now an atheist gets one popular children's book out there, our own propaganda if that is what you like to call it (what is that 1:100,000), and everyone acts like it is some kind of conspiracy. That's the hypocrisy.

Answer 8

perhaps he said that in answer to claims that his book was anti-religious propaganda? Wouldn't it be a proper response to point out mainstream books that did the opposite?

Answer 9

The Chronicles of Narnia doesn't have a UNDERLYING Christian theme, it is totally an allegory for Christ, His death for us, and us ruling with him in His Kingdom!

Answer 10

Just as your last line says,

Remember the word ‘atheist’ is nothing but a politically correct term for one God calls a fool. “The fool has said in his heart, there is no God.”