Do Atheists deliberately lie to people for evidence of Evolution?

Question

All your evidence for evolutions is either a lie or is not interpreted right. Let me show you an example where atheists lied to people.
At this website http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/part-16-more-evidence-for-ice-ages.html
About the tenth paragraph down it says
"Of all the cores removed from the Greenland Ice Sheet, the one containing the most ancient ice is the Camp Century core.... The deepest, and hence oldest, layer.... once lay 4,600 feet below the surface of the ice sheet and was probably laid down some 125,000 years ago, before the advent of the Ice Age.... analysis of the O-18 content of the bottom 1,000 feet of the core yielded details of the climatic history of Greenland"

This website shows they were not telling the truth.
http://evolution-facts.org/New-material/frozen_planes.htm

You guys don't need to be so hypocritical. I just wanted to point out to you your scientists lie on purpose for evidence for your theory. You should wake up and start thinking what if they lied about everything else.

Answer 1

You're not retarded. You just have all your facts wrong.

Answer 2

If you have a look on Wikipedia, granted not the most iron-clad reference, you'll see that the firn portion of the ice-cores (the part that is more recent even than the annual rings) doesn't start until between 50 and 100 meters down.

The planes in the creationist website are covered by 263 feet of snow. That's 80 meters, potentially before the rings even start to form for ice-core analysis.

I don't think anyone is lying here, but it would be good of the creationist to get the science right before casting aspersions.

Answer 3

if you go youtube. com
a channel called extantdodo can refute all og hovinds claims.
this one is simple, the plane crashed on a unstable glacier on the outskirt of the greenland ice sheet. the ice used for the date 125.000 years do not come from an unstable glacier. you might as well have compared this to something you found in your fridge. so the fact is wrong Hovind either doesn´t know anything about the subject or he is lying to you. I am not lying and neither are the scientists

Answer 4

No. Creationists lie. Thank you for providing a link to a typical Creationist lie. This site tries to compare a glacier near the coast to the central ice pack. Greenland is a large place, and the site attempts to equate the conditions at the coast with conditions deep in the interior. Thank you for showing how deeply dishonest Creationists are.

Answer 5

Well that particular article you posted clearly shows you have no founding in science. The article you wrote is an opinion. I'd love to see this article published in a peer reviewed scientific magazine--have the hypothesis it presents tested by independant researchers--and have the results of why or why not it was a correct hypothesis published in the same journal. I suspect the theory present in evolution facts--would be discovered to be false, and the reasons why published. All that particular page was--was an unsubstantiated opinion-with no peer reiview or no supporting evidence.

Answer 6

so are you intending to show from this one example that earth is NOT hundreds of thousands - much less millions - of years old? this example of greenland core samples only demonstrates that there was a flaw in one theory, that each layer of ice represents a year. this does not constitute a lie, except perhaps that the particular scientists whose research is vested in this theory would prefer not to have to start all over on certain points.
and using the term "atheists" as though all atheists were in on this "conspiracy" is quite inaccurate.

Answer 7

There are several things wrong with your questions. Not all "evolutionists" are atheists.
Questions pertaining to evolution should be directed to the biology section
Geology and biology are 2 different sciences. Scientists wouldn't be using geology to prove evolution, they'd be doing it to prove the age of the earth. WHich is an entirely different thing.

Also you seem to believe that the thousands of trained scientists who are working or have worked in evolutionary biology are all telling lies

That is some conspiracy

Amazing that in all that time not one of them has stood up said "hey this is all bollocks"

I mean THOUSANDS of people involved in a worldwide conspiracy.

Answer 8

Your second link seems like the creation of an uneducated psuedo scientist, piecing together random, unrelated facts in a story-teller sort of way. Don't you think that a heavy plane might sink down into older parts of the ice?

I'm not an athiest, and I'm telling you, you can't deny that the earth is billions of years old and that evolution is real. Maybe you should take some science classes before you classify yourself as an expert.

Answer 9

Let's assume you are correct, and this evidence is at best false, and at worst fake. So what? One researching of one subject peripheral to the question got one datum wrong.

This is the fundamental problem when scientific and religious viewpoints meet. In religion, the entire doctrine is right. Always and forever, to say otherwise is blasphemy. In science, it is assumed that you are wrong. Always and forever, no matter how much evidence backs you up. That is why somethign so basic as gravity is still a "theory".

Answer 10

I just want to say, that science cant be used to prove G_D. Faith proves it out. also, i dont agree with evolution either. i have studied biology, geology, and in fact there is no real evidence to support evolution. for one point, where are all the transitional fossils? in other words, if you go from lets say a dino to a pig, you should have more transitional fossils than the original fossil. because according to evolution, it requires millions of tiny changes over millions of years. so by that count there should be trillions of transitional fossils, where are they? the only way to prove a theory is to test it, repeat it over a period of time. who here was around 4 billion years ago? 10,000 years ago? 100 years ago? so, if i set my dogs outside, and observe their offspring over lets say, the next million years then i can prove the theory. you cant count variation as evolution. i can take a ball, drop it 10 ten times and measure the speed, the weight of the ball, and the distance i dropped it and come up with 9.8m/s2 all day long. please show me how to measure evolution since it is a proven fact. there is no possible way that you can prove it to me, the age of the earth that is. but i can prove G_D to myself because of my faith, and mostly for what He has done for me. I can tell you what He has done for me numerous times, and the peace of mind that nothing else could deliver. you can make the descision to believe and live, or disbelieve and perish. look around you, things get worse, not better. yes, we have an accumulation of knowledge, but i assure you we are no smarter that the ones that first put a swing on a sharp rock to cut the first tree down. but as far as the atheist is concerned, you wont win the debate with him. the best evidence is your witness in front of the atheist. they can scorn you all they want, but you shouldnt be discouraged or dismayed by their looks or opinions. G_d sees everything.

Answer 11

How are ice core samples evidence for speciation, also known as evolution? Am I missing something? Did I sleep through the day in biology class when they told us ice was a biological life form?