The one remedy for all the troubles is the eradication of superstitious nonsense.
2007-11-30 04:30:55
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Hey, didn't your all knowing all powerful almighty father create Lucifer? If your almighty father knows all, and knows what we all think and feel, shouldn't he have known before he created that rebellious and disobedient Lucifer, that he would rebel, he would be disobedient and the end result would be hell, pain, suffering, evil and bring death to man kind?
So my question is this, if your almighty father really is all knowing, then why did he create Lucifer? If your god is perfect, wouldn't it be within logic and reason to assume his decisions would be flawless? So common sense tells me that it was "god's plan" to create Lucifer, have him rebel, create hell, and bring evil and death to man.
2007-11-30 04:32:50
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answer #2
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answered by Pitchy 5
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We've given it 2000 years, and its not worked yet. I think it is now fair to say that this idea has been firmly proved wrong.
Time to try for a real remedy.
2007-11-30 04:31:59
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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Oh no, not again!
I have always been an atheist. OK, that is not completely true. I am not an atheist. I am not a believer. I am not an agnostic. I am none of these because the answer to god's existence is unimportant.
People ask what would convince me that god truly exists. While I am not sure, I am certainly open to any tangible evidence. I do not know what evidence would convince me because I believe it is impossible to prove the existence of god. What evidence would convince you that god does not exist? See the conumdrum: it is difficult to answer their question! See falsifiability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability ) for an explanation of theory and the rules of evidence.
Do not quote bible passages as evidence of god's existence. This is my standard of proof, not yours. However, if proof were proffered that convinced me god exists, I would change absolutely nothing in my life or my behavior. The existence or not of god does not matter. Like many humans I live a purposeful life and god does not add more purpose.
What if evidence were produced that convinced you god does not exist with certainty (evidence according to your standards of proof)? What would you change in your life?
- Would you stop evangelizing?
- Would you start sinning more?
- Would you stop helping those less fortunate than you?
- Would you feel that life is meaningless?
Let us examine one area Christians think about atheists. Christians seem to think non-believers hope that their good deeds will get them into heaven, should heaven really exist. The Torah (Old Testament) has a word for this: mitzvah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitzvah ). Many athests such as myself perform mitzvahs not for the sake of getting an admission ticket into heavan, but because performing good deeds and helping those in need is the right thing to do. In other words, selfless acts.
Christians sometimes proffer Pascal’s Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager ) suggesting to non-believers that they should accept Jesus (per John 3:16) as some sort of insurance policy against hell, just in case it turns out god really exists. The fallacy with this line of reasoning is that faith in god for some reward or to avoid punishment is not faith at all. It is a selfish act to receive something in return for a belief. The point of religious belief so that one can beome a better person, not to receive a reward or please a spiritual being.
Even the Torah talks about sacrafices (or any other act in an effot to please god) displeasing god.
So why do you believe in god? If it is to enter heaven, that is very selfish. If god, heaven, and hell do not exist, would you still perform mitzvahs and follow the Golden Rule or would you say what is the point? Mitzvahs are not meant to please god.
Many Christians also claim that only those who believe can live a moral life and those who do not believe in god have no moral compass. That implies that one lives a moral life, not because it is the right thing to do, but because god expects us to be moral. Again, the fallacy with this reasoning is that mitzvahs and morals should be followed for personal philosophical reasons, not because some god or holy book dictates rules to us.
In summary, I have no stake in god's existence. I do not see existence of heaven or hell as a reward and punishment system. If the whole purpose of the Golden Rule preached by Jesus was to treat others and I would like to be treated, I can follow his philosophy without believing in god. What type of god would want me to pledge my fealty to him or her simply for the sake of believing or proving my allegiance? I would expect god is beyond pride and the need for some following.
For all those thumbs down votes, I ask you to examine your personal motivation for believing in god.
Why is the concept of selflish mitzvahs so difficult for many Christians to comprehend?
2007-11-30 04:30:34
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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You'd think that someone trying to put forward a sensible argument, which you've failed in, would at least try to spell correctly.
2007-11-30 04:30:38
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answer #5
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answered by Alex - Æsahættr 4
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Oh gosh we tried that. It was called the dark ages. Let's not do that again.
2007-11-30 04:34:36
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answer #6
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answered by Anonymous
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Both Jesus and the Abrahamic god are a myth.
2007-11-30 04:30:38
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answer #7
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answered by neil s 7
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Amen. God bless you. If everyone would follow the Lord and keep His commandments....wouldn't that be so wonderful?
2007-11-30 04:33:07
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answer #8
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answered by loveChrist 6
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You shame the name of the Christ.
2007-11-30 04:30:15
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answer #9
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answered by American Spirit 7
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Thanks for the heads up!
2007-11-30 04:30:06
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answer #10
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answered by That's Why 3
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