Christians: If you would still be moral without God, then why do you think Atheists would be immoral?

Answer 1

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.


Christians are humans and in God's eyes, all humans are deranged. Thankfully, he sent a Saviour to cover our shortcomings. Those that accept that gift are saved. That's the only thing that separates Christians from anything else.

We may be moral in our own eyes, but in the end, we're all held to God's standard, not ours.

Answer 2

Atheists' morals are not absolute. They do not have a set of moral laws from an absolute God by which right and wrong are judged. But, they do live in societies that have legal systems with a codified set of laws. This would be the closest thing to moral absolutes for atheists. However, since the legal system changes the morals in a society can still change and their morals along with it. At best, these codified morals are "temporary absolutes." In one century abortion is wrong. In another, it is right. So, if we ask if it is or isn't it right, the atheist can only tell us his opinion.

If there is a God, killing the unborn is wrong. If there is no God, then who cares? If it serves the best interest of society and the individual, then kill. This can be likened to something I call, "experimental ethics." In other words, whatever works best is right. Society experiments with ethical behavior to determine which set of rules works best for it. Hopefully, these experiments lead to better and better moral behavior. But, as we see by looking into society, this isn't the case: crime is on the rise.

There are potential dangers in this kind of self-established/experimental ethical system. If a totalitarian political system is instituted and a mandate is issued to kill all dissenters, or Christians, or mentally ill, what is to prevent the atheist from joining forces with the majority system and support the killings? It serves his self-interests, so why not? Morality becomes a standard of convenience, not absolutes.


But, to be fair, just because someone has an absolute ethical system based on the Bible, there is no guarantee that he will not also join forces in doing what is wrong. People are often very inconsistent. But the issue here is the basis of moral beliefs and how they affect behavior. That is why belief systems are so important and absolutes are so necessary. If morals are relative, then behavior will be too. That can be dangerous if everyone starts doing right in his own eyes. A boat adrift without an anchor will eventual crash into the rocks.


The Bible teaches love, patience, and seeking the welfare of others even when it might harm the Christian. In contrast, the atheists' presuppositions must be constantly changing, and subjective and does not demand love, patience, and the welfare of others. Instead, since the great majority of atheists are evolutionists, their morality, like evolution is the product of purely natural and random processes that become self serving.


Basically, the atheist cannot claim any moral absolutes at all. To an atheist, ethics must be variable and evolving. This could be good or bad. But, given human nature being what it is, I'll opt for the moral absolutes -- based on God's word -- and not on the subjective and changing morals that atheism offers.

Answer 3

Some one before me said "atheists morals are not absolute."
And i agree with that, that's what separates us from the fudies, we don't believe in absolute. What's good for today may not be good for tomorrow, we are ready to accept that. Most atheists have high morals, that's a fact. But we are not stuck in one place, sometimes even ahead of our times. And the most important thing is, morals have nothing to do with God. It's just humans way of surviving in a society.

Answer 4

How can Christians be moral without God? Where did you read that?

Morality is not a thing. It is a set of do's and don'ts. Whether you believe in God or not, the first thing to learn is to be moral. The belief in God is a grace. Those who think they believe in God, why do such people get worried with small problems? WHy are such people insecure? Shouldn't they think that God is the almighty, all powerful and He is always protecting us...which gives a feeling of complete security?

So, not many people truly believe in God.

Finally, if we do not worry about others and try to strengthen our own beliefs, that will serve us something.

Answer 5

No self-respecting Christian would ever deny the existence of God. Likewise, no self-respecting Christian would consider an Atheist immoral just because he didn't believe in God. It is what we do to each other that is immoral.

Answer 6

There are no Christians to be moral, or immoral, or christians without God. There are also no Atheists without God..... hmmn?

Atheists are not immoral, just have not been enlightened, still living in the mothers womb, blind as to what is.

Answer 7

You know, it is easy to declare yourself “moral” when you get to decide for yourself what is moral or not. An atheist who declares himself to be “moral” in his own eyes is like a coach whom also gets to referee the game that his team is playing in, and whom is also on the rule making committee; of course you will make all calls and all rules in your favor so that you always win.

Humans are always biased in favor of themselves by nature, so anyone who gets to invent his or her own morality without any objective external reference will always take whatever they are already doing and declare it to be moral, and they will take whatever other people are doing differently and declare it to be immoral. An atheist who enjoys torturing kittens, for example, will invent a morality that justifies killing kittens, and an atheist who loves kittens and hates pain will invent a morality that condemns the previous one who thinks differently. Even Adolph Hitler and Al Capone viewed themselves as moral in their own eyes, since they claimed that they were simply giving the public what they wanted (Before you start that idiotic nonsense that Hitler was a Christian, for the record he was actually an self-described Arian – a form of Gnosticism that was condemned as a Christian heresy at the First Council of Nicea over 1500 years before (325 AD). Please grow a brain and learn some history.).

It kills me how many atheists believe that they are somehow immune to the normal psychological laws of human nature that affect everyone else. You think that you and you alone are objective, and that is it everyone else who is “biased” in favor of their own beliefs and preconceived notions, but not you. You are somehow different. Why do most atheists not realize how arrogant that sounds to the other 90 percent of humanity.

Answer 8

We might or might not exhibit society-acceptable behavior but behavior does not make us moral. Moral is a state of being, not just behavior. I can train a rat in acceptable behavior and just like training a rat, society trains succeeding generations in society-acceptable behavior.

The result of society training is a conscience that is really nothing but a set of feelings. What obligation do we have to obey a feeling? None that I know of.

Without God, our standards for morality would simply vary in accordance with what makes us feel good. We would do what we feel like doing and, by our great capacity for self delusion, judge it good. That is how even criminals plotting their next crime can think of themselves as basically good.

Once I was having a debate with a group of atheists and one of them had an epiphany. She said, "I just realized that we do what we feel like doing." Then she quickly wrote again, "of course, what we feel like doing is always the right thing". There was complete, absolute silence from that entire group. Later, they probably beat her senseless.

Answer 9

That's not how I usually hear it phrased. In fact it's the opposite, they claim that without God there is no reason to be moral.

Anybody who does ask this question makes me wonder if the only reason they don't rape, murder, rob, cheat, and lie is because they fear punishment.

I don't do them because they are just plain wrong. I don't need a deity to understand why rape is wrong.

We are social beings pre-programmed to feel emotions like empathy, sympathy, disgust, and so on, and this is where our morals come from.

Answer 10

i think of that area of the concern is that the atheists look to have contradictory positions. they say that morality relies upon society norms yet they later propose that morality is generic. as an occasion, the atheists freely criticize the morality displayed in the previous testomony as though modern-day day morality could desire to word to a thoroughly distinctive society. Logically, the atheist can't criticize the morality of all and sundry different than themselves for all of us are in a minimum of somewhat distinctive societies.