if u agree that all religious fanatics & extremists uses religion as an excuse to justified their ....?

Question

thirst for power, greed, revenge & wealth which implies that all religion are basically peaceful by their books.

So why do u humans point finger at each other & generalising everyone's religion as evil or bad when we know only a handful are twisting the truth?

"facinating humans" we borg say.

those r all good responds, thank you very much,

my sentiments exactly too.

Answer 1

It is easy to generalize or just place in simple categories. The extremists tend to make the most noise, or do the actions, that make them very visable. The truth is a hard things to be exacting with, and tends to be on the slippery slope between the extremes. Some people like to deal with simple ideologies, than to have to deal with the complexities of the real world. Emotions tend to overide the intellect in a lot of people. We need to urge people to not group moderates, in the same categories as the extremists of their religion.

Answer 2

The human ego identified mind is always insane, some just carry it to a further extreme than most. The behavior of fanatics and extremists is just a little easier to identify as insane than the behavior of the average ego identified human. It's the same behavior intensified, both are insane. The average believer will negate the other with words, arguments and twisting the truth while extremists will just kill the other. They are doing the same thing just at different intensities. Both actions have nothing to do with the teachings of their religion but have everything to do with their need to protect their egos hold on their identity as someone "special, spiritual or enlightened". The same happens with the ego identified scientist or atheist.

Answer 3

All religions started by people attempting to explain "why." As such, they all involve "something" doing something either because humans did or did not do somthing for it.

Organised Religions (ALL organised religions, whether Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, etc) are simply a way for power hungry persons to control the masses to their benefit...in short, put others to work while the "priest" sits on his fat duff and does no work. In short, is a parasite poisoning his own people.

Religion in and of itself, is neither good nor bad. In fact, MANY religious books (bible and the qu'aran for two) actively encourage it's readers to seek the truth, regardless of whether that truth is "God makes it rain when we pray hard enough" or the Water Cycle and weather patterns. After all, most religious books encourage their readers to search-out and glorify the internal connection with their god, not exposue it in a building infront of others. In this case, the Christian churches are great examples - they say that the only way to worship "God" is to do so by coming to church, and attending services...despite the fact that the Bible directs you to "Worship God in the quietude of your own heart!"

Fanatics are simply people who have been so brainwashed, that they have closed their minds to everything, including their own religion! After all, The Book of Islam (Qu'aran) specifically forbids suicide, and yet suicide bombings are a popular toy of the Imans screaming "Jyhad!"

Extremists are (usually) just people whom have mis-identified the spirit of their own beliefs for the letter of the writings, and have decided that the letter is more important than the meaning. This is true whether we're talking the deserts of the Middle East or the back-woods of Rural USA.

Answer 4

The problem is, we humans always think that only we are right, everyone else are just blind or delusional. It doesn't occur to us that we can all be right or wrong at the same time, because how do you define right and wrong anyway? The best way is to tolerate others faith and point of views, not all of them of course, but we've got to find a way to live peacefully.

Fascinating humans, absolutely agree with you on that!

Answer 5

I think people get fanatical and extreme when their own beliefs are threatened. Then they direct this fanaticism at the person or persons whom they feel are the one's expressing that which doesn't confirm their own belief system. The funny thing is they do this believing that they themselves are doing a good thing. They can only be like this, when they believe that their own truth is the real truth, and they percieve another person as 'spreading dangerous lies'. So they take up the mantle, to make sure that the one spreading dangerous lies isn't taken seriously. At first they will try to do it with words, by convincing other people that the 'other' is either crazy or fanatical, trying to 'discredit' the other so other people won't listen to them or take them seriously. When this doesn't work, then they go to more extreme measures, and we see things like people going into religious wars and killing each other in the name of their god.

I think the root of this is that we want to be right in what we believe. If someone comes along and expresses something which doesn't fit with our current world, spiritual or religious viewpoints, then we reject that person or teaching. To be able to accept the different viewpoint, or to integrate it with our own viewpoints, it means that we have to let go of some part of all of our own viewpoint. This is contrary to human behaviour because the human personality gets it's confirmation out of what one believes oneself to be and a large part of this is one's spiritual beliefs and one's knowledge.

The personality of the human stays intact as a rigid structure, simply because it doesn't allow changing viewpoints to enter. This isn't always the case, eventually one will come to points in one's life, where one realizes that things actually aren't going so well. It is then in one's misery, that one becomes open to question one's own beliefs and wisdom. Then one is becomes open to receive alternative ways of seeing the world and opens to the reality of change.

I think with religious or spiritual knowledge, people get more fanatic because for people who are religious or spiritual they have given up most of the other things in the world. Their whole life is invested in becoming more spiritual, thus also they become more and more identified with themselves as being a spiritual person. Thus also why they feel so threatened when 'new spiritual information' comes along, it feels like one is being threatened to the core of one's being. I think this is the hardest kind of knowledge to update, for this reason. People who have been on a spiritual quest, have received essential truths, or a real wisdom - yet what happens is that they become identified with it and thus think it's the only truth and the more they are like this, then the more rigid they become over time, not being able to accept new information in this 'category'.

So still it's strange, we all know all is changing all around us, yet we still cling to the past: the old truths, the old religions, the old wisdom and knowledge, and are willing to fight vehemently to keep it. Some people can stay busy being a fanatic or extremist all thier life, defending old worn out spiritual viewpoints.

Okay, so also people who are prone to behave in this way, do it because it's part of their personality - they get a kick out of getting identified with causes and fighting for them. Usually the background of such a person is that at a very early age they were put in a position where they needed to act like the father, or take control of their lifes, earlier than they were ready to do so, because there was nobody else to do it. Then because they had nobody to defend them when they were little, in adulthood they feel the need to defend others and protect them from the bad guys who might harm them. This gives the defending one a senes that one is doing good, so even they will attack other people and kill them in the name of justice being served. So if somebody feels they have the whole truth and nothing but the truth and someone else comes along who is articulate but is expressing some truth which they don't know, then they almost have no choice but to attack.

This is a game of the personality coming out of one's conditioned past, but it keeps many people occupied being the vigilante for other people.

Betsy

Answer 6

Interesting point. I would go further and say that all religions are wrong and only God the Father Son and Spirit and his word the Bible are true, even if there are elements of truth in all religions.

For me its not about religion but faith, faith in a trustworthy God who made us, sustains us, and has made a way possible that we can be freed from the condemnation that we deserve for our sinfulness.

Answer 7

totally agree with you. I am a muslim and am sick of being blamed for the idiots who do bad things and say they are muslims.

I wish people wouldn't believe evrything in the media and would just talk to muslims in their community.

Answer 8

Religion has always been the scapegoat for the irresponsible ones among us.