If you say "I do" then what do you mean when you say "I"? Do you mean that your brain makes the choice? If so, then how do you have free will when your brain functions are determined by the laws of physics? It means that your choice was not under "your" control but rather under the control of nature. That means you have no free will.
If you say "I" is more than the brain, then how does that other part override the physics involved when it's not physical?
2007-11-30 03:28:59 · 12 answers · asked by Meat Bot 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jason J: And just what do you think neurology is based on?
2007-11-30 03:41:02 · update #1
I give up. Seriously I'm wasting my time with these people.
2007-11-30 03:41:44 · update #2
there is no one "I" . We are in fact composed of many "I's". Hundreds of them, all different. One "I" decides to stop smoking, another "I" decides, 'well, not right now'. One "I" decides to get up early in the morning, another "I" want's to sleep in late at 5 a.m. (Man's name is LEGION, for we are many) Basically, WE DON'T EXIST.
2007-12-03 13:51:50 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
As Hamlet said to Laertes.... There are more things in heaven and earth, Meat Bot, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Right now I can see the screen, read the words, understand them, think about them, make sense of them, review what I know already, observe the neural paths this fires, rethink my perspective, formulate a response, and type it out. Also, I smell something burning, I hear keys clacking and people talking, I feel the desk, etc. All these functions happen simultaneously in different parts of the brain and are not collected and do not communicate. The fact that I perceive them as one unified conscious experience, the fact that I am me even when I am asleep - these are things not explained by mere physical observation.
Further, who says that our souls are not one and the same with the very electricity that fires the neurons? That theory would make perfect sense - electricity appears in the 6-8 week old fetus and leaves at brain death. Energy is a constant, so where did it go? It has changed forms and dissipated back into the totality of energy, which is the light from which all reality is constructed.
2007-11-30 11:45:46 · answer #2 · answered by ledbetter 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How can you deduce that logical reasoning is nature making the decision and not us? Brain functions are not determined by laws of physics but More so of anatomy, physiology and neurology. That being said I make my decision through reason, logic and sometimes passion. That is free will, i make choices therefore I reap the consequences.
EDIT:
Yes I admit there is physics involved within neurology, impart to neurons and electrons firing along with synapse time releases. But this is not the natural world physics of Newton and Einstein. I believe in order to make your point you are developing a coexistent relationship between two common sciences that share very little with each other.
2007-11-30 11:35:39 · answer #3 · answered by Jason J 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
*g* You know good and well they have no answer. They're so convinced they have free will that they'll believe anything in order to avoid admitting they don't.
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Jason J:
I'm reminded of something my computer once spit out of a fortune program...
"God is applied Power,
which is applied Government,
which is applied Politics,
which is applied Sociology,
which is applied Psychology,
which is applied Biology,
which is applied Chemistry,
which is applied Physics,
which is applied Mathematics,
which is applied Philosophy,
which is applied bull$#!+."
The more complex sciences, including anatomy, neurology, biology, chemistry, all boil down to physics.
Why does 2H2O break down into 2H2 + O2 when exposed to an electrical charge? Sure, we can define it as an electrochemical reaction -- but there is physics behind the chemistry. By providing excess electrons, the hydrogen bonds to the oxygen are broken, since the hydrogen and oxygen can fill their covalence shells temporarily as negative ions, then can reform elementally by bonding H-H and O-O. Proton pumps that produce ATP function similarly -- by the laws of physics, expressed chemically, forming biology.
You cannot escape physics just by renaming certain aspects of it.
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Jason J:
Alright, show me one thing in neurology, chemistry, or biology, which does not rely on physics, could not be expressed as a physical structure or interaction between physical structures (and thus subject to the laws of physics).
Just one will do, and my point will be disproven.
2007-11-30 11:34:54 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
You answer is as simple as the free will to ask this question, stupid as it (the question) may sound. It's like a self proving question...so I would not even bother to answer it except for the 2 points and lunchbreak boredom.
2007-11-30 11:34:03 · answer #5 · answered by cop350zx 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
the divine part of the human soul
2007-11-30 11:40:15 · answer #6 · answered by Adam of the wired 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yeah, I'll just take the two points.
Go back on your meds.
2007-11-30 11:36:45 · answer #7 · answered by Unrepentant Fenian Bastard 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Why are you in the religion catagory woooops! unless you really are religous?
2007-11-30 11:32:12 · answer #8 · answered by seaturtle36 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Anything that keeps me out of trouble.
2007-11-30 11:32:07 · answer #9 · answered by free_beer_tonite 3 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Let me tell you, If that marriage AIN'T from GOD---you better NOT MARRY!
Quit your B S,.................
2007-11-30 11:33:35 · answer #10 · answered by bettyboop 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋