There is no question about Jesus being Jewish. The only question is whether he was the promised Messiah, or not. Everything points to the fact that he was.
Some Jews posting here fail to see two streams of messianic prophecies in the Tanakh. One speaks of a suffering servant, the other of a victorious king. In case of Christ, both are true, and the latter one will be fulfilled in near future.
2007-11-30 00:27:20
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answered by Mutations Killed Darwin Fish 7
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"alot of the the NT was written by Paul..."
Some of it was (Eph, Phil, Tim, Titus) but also a lot was written by others - Luke (Acts), James, John, 'the writer to the Hebrews' (who some think was Paul but not sure), Peter
"[Paul]...didn't even meet Jesus"
Well according to his account Paul did meet Jesus on the road to Damascus and because of this went from being a famous persecutor of the followers of 'the way' (later changed to Christians a term first used in Antioch) to being a servant of the Gospel and risking his life to spread the good news around the world. Interesting that a pharisee would risk his life over a deception (or indeed that many thousands of Christians today risk persecution if it is indeed a deception)
I am surprised at how certain some posters are that Christians have misinterpreted the Torah. Whilst there is some debate about aspects of the translations there is v little dissent about the passages (for e.g in Isaiah) which refer to the coming Messiah. It is a matter of whether you would chose to assign those prophecies to birth of Christ, his resurrection and ascension.
The point is that followers of Jesus chose to preach a gospel of acceptance and tolerance; of mercy and compassion; of forgiveness and love.
It matters not to me that Jews today don't recognise Jesus as the Messiah, but it does matter to me that we remember that Jesus and his disciples gave the world some 'good news' - that we could know God and find salvation through His grace.
If I am decieved by the 12 about Jesus (and I and millions of others are firmly of the view that we are not) and live life according to the Gospel, it can do no harm other than bring some of Jesus grace into a pretty grim world.
2007-11-30 01:12:41
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answered by Timbo 2
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We as Jews know that Jesus could not have been the messiah. There are specific guidelines in the Tanakh (old testament) to show the Jews back then how to know a false messiah from the real thing.
It was, as you say, people that came long after that developed Christianity. Paul never even met Jesus!
And although I know Christians are now going to insist that Jesus is mentioned in the Torah, HE IS NOT. Christians rely on MISTRANSLATED HEBREW.
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- to the person two answers down, NO, we as Jews don't view Jesus as a prophet! How about people stop answering on behalf of Jews when, with all due respect, y'all keep getting it wrong :)
For us, Jesus is irrelevant. We just don't consider him at all. He does not feature anywhere in Jewish theology.
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Either you are more ignorant than I thought or you are downright lying! There is CONSIDERABLE dissent about the so called 'prophecies' re the messiah in the Tanakh - in that THERE ARE NONE. Only Christians who rely on incorrectly translated Hebrew insist that Jesus is mentioned. Anyone who knows Hebrew knows that the messiah detailed CANNOT be Jesus, for numerous specific reasons.
For you to argue that you understand the Tanakh better than Jewish people is absurd and unbelievably arrogant.
2007-11-30 00:27:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Jews have very good reasons as to why they don't believe in jesus. Anywho, maybe the Gentiles saw jesus as some miracle guy (which they believe). Remember, a lot of the NT was written by Paul, so he said stuff without even meeting Jesus.
2007-11-30 00:40:56
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answered by -♦One-♦-Love♦- 7
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Jews became Christians that believed that Jesus was the Messiah. Some Jews did not believe that he was and so held to their old religion. Quite simple really.
2007-11-30 00:25:55
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answered by Anonymous
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I have recently talked to Jewish person about this and you are quite right. Jesus was just a man who had a cult following in his time. His disciples moved the rock to make it look like some kind of magic happen end and people have been deceived ever since.
2007-11-30 00:27:44
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answered by TSIRHC 3
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a lot of radical Islamists state issues that neither Christians nor Jews prefer to pay attention. they are announcing, case in point: "There are Hadiths (Islamic traditions attributed to Mohammed) on the subject of our conflict against the Jews. And that's given: 'The day of resurrection won't arrive until eventually the Muslims make conflict against the Jews and kill them, and until eventually a Jew hiding at the back of a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there's a Jew at the back of me, come and kill him!' This Hadith clarifies to us the features of the marketing campaign between us and the Jews. The tree and the rock do not say 'Oh, Palestinian,' 'Oh Arab,' or 'Oh resident of the middle East.' particularly they are announcing: 'Oh, Muslim, Servant of Allah.'" (Palestinian television, March 30, 2001)
2016-10-09 22:58:01
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answered by Anonymous
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