It's disgraceful and IMO, falls squarely on the shoulders of the coaches of both teams. They set the example and have the responsibility for controlling their teams. From the sounds of it, they spent more time being aggressors than attempting to help the officials regain control of the situation. Honestly, from the description provided, I am surprised that only one player was suspended.
Younger, less experienced officials are the norm in a game involving 8 year olds. The reporter stated that the police account said both coaches sent players to the ice. Speaking as an official, I can usually control or regain control of an altercation involving the normal amount of skaters on the ice at just about any level. It would be next to impossible for me as an experienced, higher level official even with 8 year olds when there are extra guys out there.
I am involved with handling discipline for a local league and I hear statements very similar to those made the younger team official in the interview whenever we have had a brawl or incident. Basically, "My team was not responsible in any way". When it is all said and done, 99% of the time, there is blame to be distributed amongst everyone involved.
Bob: I didn't read your answer until after I answered myself. Based on your description, it sounds like the coaches were more of the problem than the kids were? I was 8 in 1978 and still playing in Philly, so I was involved in a few incidents like this when I was that age. None of them amounted to much more than a dog pile, I would be shocked if this was much more either.
2007-11-29 14:15:45
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answered by Lubers25 7
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It was really nothing, made into something big.
The coaches, or some of the coaches are to blame for allowing it to happen, encouraging it and for getting involved in it.
What it boils down to is kids immitating what they see on TV. It looked like a brawl, but the difference was it was a bunch of 8 year olds that really didn't know what to do next after they cleared the benches. There was less of a chance of one of these kids hurting each other than an errand high stick during the game.
Leaving the bench to join a fight is prohibited in the NHL and monor hockey. These kind of things have happened rarely since the 70's and early 80's. So the NHL can't be blamed here for influencing the youngsters. Fighting between two willing individuals is still common in pro hockey, but is very different from what happened in Guelph.
The blame should be put completely on the coaches. The coaches should have ensured that the bench doors were closed so that no kids would leave the bench. Instead they opened them and encouraged this to happen.
2007-11-29 17:54:54
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answered by Anonymous
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How does one brawl when all involved are wearing full facemasks? I'm not sure how that would work.
Kids sometimes fight in team sports. It's not a sign of the decline of Western Civilization but they should be disciplined and taught a lesson. Look, the kids started it so it's hard to blame the parents or coaches, unless they either provoked the kids to do it or didn't try to stop it.
Instead of trying to figure out which adults/role models/athletes/celebrities to blame, let's make the kids accountable for their own actions and teach them why they were wrong. That way they can choose the right action next time, no matter who or what tells them different.
2007-11-29 17:01:56
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answered by lupin_1375 5
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That's nothing you should have seen us playing road hockey when I was that age. We were brawling all the time and we didn't need the adults to make it happen. You hack me with your stick and I'm going to give you a face wash.
I think far too much was made of it.
Do you plan on lecturing about the evils of hockey later, because if so you may get more than you bargained for.
2007-11-29 15:00:02
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answered by PuckDat 7
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You know, just watching it, it was kinda cute to see those two kids swinging their arms at each other with their gloves on. It was like two, short, chubby guys on skates, doing a waddle-fight. lol
If anything, the blame should fall on the coaches. On the top left corner, it kind of looks like one of them threw a kid over the bench to get him to join the fight.
2007-11-29 16:36:21
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answered by Anonymous
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If 8 year olds are fighting I blame the coaches and parents.They need to lead by example and the refs need to control what happens on the ice.Thats too bad.
2007-11-29 13:59:13
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answered by Darren 4
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Hard to say what I think since there is no video of the "fight", however, it sounds like it was pretty bad if police had to e called. Seriously, couldn't their parents step in and break things up?!
2007-11-29 14:14:24
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answered by tboneund 3
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Haha did you see them score a goal in the backround when the devils coach was talking....
thats was stupid, we didnt even get to see the fight, whats the point of that????
2007-11-29 14:39:18
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answered by Anonymous
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ohhhhh Sammy is gonna love this one. Its a totally controlled environment, and while I'd rather not see elementary school students slug it out. its part of the game. I mean, they're 8...who cares...
2007-11-30 03:45:42
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answered by Anonymous
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Overblown. It actually is not all that novel, it is just with the advent of youtube, we get to see it all. Your link does not provide the brawl, which I have seen. When you do see it, check out the woman in the white coat going nutso.
2007-11-29 14:09:23
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answered by Bob Loblaw 7
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