Which is worse: Bush and company LYING about WMD in Iraq or...?

Question

Which is worse:

Bush and company lying about the existence of WMDs in Iraq and going into the war under a false pretense...

or

Bush and company (EVERONY Bush put around him) getting duped by bad intel... getting SO duped that they got us into the war?

i contend that Bush lying is more EVIL... but bush and company getting duped is far more dangerous.

EDIT:
ladies and gents.

please don't quote people who had faith that their president wouldn't lie to them about evidence.

it boggles my mind that you can ignore the fact that the vote to authorize an invasion (if needed) was only cast AFTER this bogus intel was given to the congress...whether it was a total lie or bad intel... the president and his people had to CONVINCE everyone that it was real.

and as for the clinton quotes.. yeah.. but he didn't invade iraq... and this was before Sadam claimed to have dismantled the weapons (which he, evidently did)

Answer 1

Both are bad for the country....one is impeachable though.

Answer 2

Both are serious problems but the evidence is overwhelming that Bush and Co. lied about and manipulated the intelligence. I won't bother to cite all the sources, but the Downing
Street Memo, Joe Wilson debacle, testimony of several former intelligence officials and operatives, Colin Powell's experience, and much more, tell the story.
And, yes, I agree that the manipulation is far more evil AND dangerous. Manipulation and lying undermine a democracy and our checks and balances safety net. In anutshell, It's "1984" brought to America and the world

Answer 3

It really does not matter at this point in time. We are there making progress defeating Islamic terrorists who want to control the world. President Bush is trying to keep you from being blown away or in the future bowing to Allah. We will not be talking freely over the Internet if they (the extremists) have their way. President Bush is neither evil or dangerous. He Will go down in history as one of most heroic presidents that did a very unpopular move to invade Iraq. Remove the dictatorship their. Free the Iraqi's from terrorists who want to take over their country as well as all middle east countries. We have been being attacked by these islamists for centuries and he took the first hard stance against them. He actually inherited this problem from Clinton. Bill sent bombs over there when he was under impeachment. Congress figured we needed a Pres at that time and point and so they acquitted him so he could deal with Iraq. Bush had to get all this money to beef up our military cause Clinton closed military bases and let our defense go to hell. Bush unfortunately got the tough choice.

Answer 4

Enough already with the "Bush lied" rhetoric.
Bush and company duped into war? How about almost the entire Congress and the vast majority of the world's intelligence communities? How about Saddam's strategy and bluff was effective enough that his own troops believed that Iraq had WMD's?
And the "lie?" Do you seriously believe that if this administration had actually lied and got us into this war - if there was any verifiable or valid proof to this contention - that Congress (especially now) would not start impeachment proceedings immediately? And why haven't they?

Answer 5

Conserva:

The difference between President Bush and all of the others you listed is that he is the PRESIDENT. It was his decision to take our forces into battle once the Congress authorized it (which they did to give him the tools to force Saddam to give in). He was the one that needed to ensure that the intel was sound and the reasons for war undeniable. It is his fault, and his alone, that we went to war in Iraq. It doesn't matter what Kerry or Hillary said (which by the way is why none of those listed above would never get my vote).

Every death in Iraq (both Iraqi citizens and American & coalition forces) are on him and him alone. He was the one that decided to go against the UN.

Answer 6

bush and cheney had already decided to invade Iraq.

There were maps of Iraq's oil fields spread out on the conference tables at cheney's Energy Task Force meeting
IN MARCH OF 2001.

He had to lie in order to meet his agenda.

Answer 7

I'd say Bush was too ignorant to sit around and look at the big picture.

And ignorance is what is the worst.

Answer 8

I'd rather have a non-so-bright President that told me the truth than a not-so-bright President that lied to me. So I would have to say the lie is worse.

Answer 9

Notice the way conservatives avoid real answers!

BOTH are wrong and BOTH are dangerous.

Partisanship is crippling the GOP at this point, as the non-answers show.

Answer 10

The worst thing is listening to you guys constantly whining about your little made-up grievances.