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Question

Ok...I was raised Christian and currently attend an Episcopal church. I have a very close relationship with God but have had difficulty with how Jesus fits into all of this. I believe in the message that Jesus brings, but I am not sure I believe in the divinity of Jesus. SO my question is, can I still consider myself a Christian if I don't believe in the divinity of Jesus but follow and live by his message?

Answer 1

The actual path given for Gentiles to merit their place in the world is by following the paths of the Noahide (Righteous Gentile). Not by believing in a virgin human/god pagan blood sacrifice for sin.

This has never been the role of the Messiah in Judaism. The Church, after the Jews left, adopted the paganism from which those concepts come.

The story of a god impregnating a human virgin, the child being a man/god who is born in a humble abode, grows to astound the elders in the Temple (or other holy place), then reaches adulthood and serves as a virgin human/man blood sacrifice for sin, then goes to the underworld for 3 days, then rises again to renew life, is EXTREMELY common among old ancient pagan religions.

These concepts have never been found in Judaism. This is what Judaism moved AWAY from, when Abraham founded the religion. Christianity brought it right back in for itself. It is pagan.

The Messiah, according to what God gave on Mt. Sinai, is to be wholly human, born of a married Jewish man and wife in the usual way, and is not worshipped as a god. That is idolatry. God causes many miracles during the Messiah's lifetime, it is not the Messiah who does God-like miracles. He lives a long life, marries, and has sons to whom he leaves an inheritance.

Amazing what the Church has suppressed, isn't it. How many Jews do you, or most people even know, to ask about this? Plus, being told by Christianity that the Jews are "blind" - pretty handy, eh? No, the Jews are not blind. The Jews stick with what God gave on Mt. Sinai, and it is the Jews and ONLY the Jews who have the correct criteria by which to judge who is the Messiah and who isn't.

These criteria were given by God, and the Jews have applied them to each and every man who has come claiming to be the Messiah (and there have been literally thousands). Not one of them fulfilled the ACTUAL prophecies of which there are only about 16, not the hundreds of false prophecies that the Church invented to further it's pagan agenda.

Judaism doesn't have the concept of Original Sin. Thus, we do not need to have the pagan concept of a human/godman blood sacrifice for sin, for cleansing this non-existant "sin". We believe that everyone is born with a clean slate, pure, and it is what we do after we are born that determines whether we blemish our souls or not. We have the CHOICE to do that or not, it is each person's responsibility to choose, every moment of the day.

There is also no need to be "grafted in", nor does any such thing even exist. This is another false teaching of the Church. God gave the path by which Gentiles are to become Righteous Gentiles and merit their place in the World To Come. It is NOT by believing in a pagan human blood sacrifice for sin.

It is by following the paths of the Noahide (Righteous Gentile). This was given at Mt. Sinai for Gentiles, just like the Jews received their paths. The Church has consistently covered this up, and murdered anyone who taught it. In spite of that, the Jews continue to teach this to Gentiles.

Noahides are extremely important. They are to worship God side by side with us as EQUALS. They are to have a large hand in the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem as well. They will inherit the earth along with the Jews during the Messianic age, and live in peace and under the love of God.

Every time you see the word "hell" or "virgin birth" or a huge number of other deliberate mistranslations of the Hebrew in your Christian bible, please realise that it doesn't say those things, nor does it mean them.

We don't have hell, we have reincarnation. Hell, for us, is after we die and we meet and FEEL every single ounce of pain that we ever caused ourselves and anyone else, and at that point we burn off our blemishes, and make complete tshuvah (turning from those things). We also gain wisdom, compassion, and understanding, and when we are born again we are able to bring this to the world to make it a better place.

If you would like to learn more about the path you are supposed to be on as a Righteous Gentile, please visit
http://www.noahide.org

If you would like to learn why Jesus did not meet the criteria for being the Messiah, please visit Jewish sources ( i will list some below for you).

Remember that we were told by God NOT to look at any miracles that anyone claiming to be the Messiah might do. This is for several reasons:

1. Even the Egyptians could do miracles such as raising the dead, and so did several Jewish sages in the Torah (old testament) long before Jesus supposedly lived. None of these were the Messiah.

2. In the End of Days, the Anti-Messiah will do miracles in order to convince many people that he is actually the Messiah, much as Jesus did. The Jews, who are taught never to look at miracles as proof of Messiahship, will not be fooled, but many non-Jews will be, just as they have been for 2000 years by the "miracles" Jesus did.

3. The ONLY criteria that proves that someone coming to claim the title of Messiah, really IS, is that he fulfills each and every one of the prophecies DURING HIS LIFETIME. Period. There is no such thing as a "second coming" in Judaism, never has been. It's a church invention. Jesus didn't fulfill even ONE of them. Remember that we are talking about the REAL prophecies, the ones given by God on Mt. Sinai, not the hundreds invented by the Church. This is why Jesus was not the Messiah.

Anyway, for those links to learn about the real Messiah, what he will do, what his role is, the circumstances of his birth, etc. please visit the following links from Jewish sources. Best wishes to you.


http://www.aish.com/spirituality/philoso...

http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.html

http://ohr.edu/ask/ask00j.htm

http://shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/fa...

http://www.beingjewish.com/toshuv/whynot...

http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=1...

http://www.jewsforjudaism.com

Answer 2

The basis of Christianity is to believe in the divinity of Jesus as well as following and living by his message. im curious at what part youre confused at

Answer 3

Yes, and no. Christians may kick you out of their club, but there are thousands of people who follow Jesus' teachings without believing that he is divine.

Answer 4

the Lordship of Jesus is what Christianity is all about.

The Lord (boss) Jesus (savior) Christ (anointed).

The only way you can be these is to be divinity.

Answer 5

christian is Christ like. Jesus is the Christ. With out Christ there is not christian. Read your bible you may find that Jesus is God. Thru Jesus all things were created. John chapter 1

Answer 6

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit 3 in one. Jesus is God.

Here's a way to understand it.

Water is liquid, vapor and ice, 3 forms, all are water.

Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father, except through Him.


Read Genesis, "Let us make a man." It doesn't say "I will make a man". When the disciples asked Jesus what God looked like, he told them, "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father, for the Father is in me and I am in the Father.

Answer 7

:-)

well... do you want to move to Judaism or Islam? The different is only Judaism does not believe Jesus teaching where Islam accept Jesus teaching. Think about it.


peace

Answer 8

That is the same as saying you want to practice a piano without one. Jesus is the one whom they called the Christ, thus his followers were "christians" as so named by the Greeks in ancient times.

Answer 9

I'm a little like that, but I don't believe in the divinity of anything.

Answer 10

A good in depth Bible study MAY help you at this time... I am on my 4th one.... I am using a guy named Les Feldick, so far I am really enjoying his work and study...... He breaks it all down, compares scripture with scripture, explains the Hebrew meanings of Gods' names through out the OT and NT..... check it out, he has a site....... *Through the Bible with Les Feldick*....... go in peace...... God bless

Answer 11

I believe this makes you a Jehovah's Witness. I'm not 100% sure on that though