Why is it acceptable to discriminate against homosexual serving in the military and not minorities?

Question

I don't advocate any sort of discrimination... but it sure as hell seems a good bunch of these Republican nominees have no problem with it...

Answer 1

I agree. I was totally appalled last night by Hunter's response, etc.. However, atleast he gave a straight answer - Romney couldn't even stand by his previous statement, the coward!

Anyway, I think it is ridiculous to assume that men and women professional enough to serve our country are not professional enough to work side by side with a person regardless of their sexuality.

A homosexual person is there for the same reason a straight person is. And what is it with everyone on here thinking that just because a homosexual is in the military that they will be some sort of sex crazed animals with no human decency? They are just people like everyone else.

I am a straight woman but if I were serving our country it would not bother me at all if a lesbian were to work with me. I would give her enough credit to know she is just like every other person in america showing up to do their job. Not to mention, I'm sure even with "dont ask dont tell" in place everyone can tell who is gay or not. It's not some sort of Old Maid card game where you try not to "get the gay person".

Other places of employment in America can't NOT hire you because of your sexual orientations, and the military shouldn't be any different. Afterall, it's a job - and only the most noblest and self sacrificing of people choose to serve our country, so why should it make a difference if they are gay?

Answer 2

I'm not sure how you can compare homosexuals and minorities but anyways, ..... the Army had a regulation basically saying that homosexuals were not allowed in the military. Later Clinton had it changed to say something like "don't ask don't tell". There was a long history behind that. Clinton was wanting to put into law that homosexuals were allowed in the Army. The Army got mad because he never confirmed with them about this so to make both sides happy, he made that crazy policy. So, if you want to use the word "discriminate" then so be it but there are policies against homosexuals in the military.

There is no policy against minorities in the military! That would be crazy! Minorities make up a very large part of the military. I hate to use the word "minority" because it is injust.

Answer 3

I was amused by the answers they gave on "don't ask don't tell." I would have no problems serving with gays and lesbians and, in fact, I'm sure that I do.

That said, however, I do find a distinction to be made between, what you term, discrimination toward homosexuals, and actual discrimination toward minorities.

The one saving grace of "don't ask don't tell" is that it does not operate based on what a person is; on something about them that they cannot change, but on behavior.

Similarly, I'm sure that I serve with racists. So long as they don't act on those feelings, however, thay remain in the military and out of trouble. It is, very much, a de facto "don't ask, don't tell" on that score as well.

But you aren't concerned with dicrimination against racists. Alcoholics can also be discharged, but you don't seem concerned with them either.

There are a whole host of behaviors, which if openly engaged in can result in involuntary separation from the military. Some may elicit your sympathy and some may not, but none of them are kept secret, no one is surprised to learn they will be discrharged for them....

I can find no malfeasance in the policy.

Answer 4

that is not unlawful for the U. S. militia to discriminate becaue the individuals who make the guidelines and be certain what's criminal and what's prohibited reported this coverage, which they usual, replace into not unlawful. Very almost immediately this could be a factor of the previous and we'd have an entire new set of issues to handle. That being gays interior the militia and the themes which will come alongside with that. because of the fact we are able to possibly in no way settle for females and adult males human beings showering mutually what do we do now? in case you have in no way served your usa, and you have not, then that's academic to you. To us that's appropriate to the protection of our usa.

Answer 5

Wow looks like theres alot of gay people answering, anyway look at the Military and what it is made up of. There are alot of minorities in the Military ALOT!!! You cant compare a minority population to a gay population. well I guess if it makes you happy the military does have a dont ask dont tell policy. Although sadly there has been some gay military under my command, although they never said it until there last day, yeah lilke we didnt know. Its weird they have different attitudes and they act different, The gay community is now prouder and with that come out more, in appearence and the way they carry themselves. Its now more obvious that ever. Im not sayng its bad but you can tell. And the truth is that they do have a different attitude about things. If this wasnt a gay world I would say alot more different things but I dont want to get reported. Anyway to the guy above that said he wishes there were more gays around on deployment and to lube it up.... Thats just nasty. ughhhhh. "vomit!!" Anyway minorities are not sweet or kind or soft or carry a "talk to the hand" mentality!!!!! We just kill and dont worry about our nails..... I know Im a get hate for this but f u c k it. I tried to be as nice as I could.

Answer 6

As a former Naval Midshipman, and considering going to EOD or SWCC, I couldn't care less if my shipmate was gay. He or she is there for the same reason I am. The Armed Forces isn't a cruising spot for homosexuals. It's made up of volunteers, the best in the world!!! Maybe I miss understood the question, but it's not just Republicans that voted for the ridiculous "don't ask, don't tell". If someone wants to serve our country, they should be allowed,regardless. You do raise a good point, I witnessed many accounts of racism, and reported it to my XO. He did nothing sadly. It's all about the guy fighting next to you.I don't care if he's black,white,purple,gay, or straight. I went to Airborne school with an Asian homosexual, and he was an outstanding man. Sad world we live in.

Answer 7

The only thing that I can figure is that in the military you are segregated.... that is men from women... for good reason... they want you focused on military tasks and not sexual tasks!!!

Also, if I were a STRAIGHT person in the military, I would not want to be bunking up with someone who may have "other" intentions with me. People serving in forces are on leave for months at a time... the last thing they need is to be stuffed in a tent in the middle of a dessert with a gay man that is surrounded by fresh meat going crazy.... REALLY!!!

If gay people want to be in the military and OPEN, then they can go stay with the opposite sex so that they are focused and not distracted!

This is a FAR different argument than race!!!! I am not against homosexuals.... but you asked for reasons... I am playing devils advocate!

I like the "DON"T ASK< DON'T TELL" policy. But I can guarantee that if some gay chick was climbing into my cot in the middle of the night, knowing I was stright, she better be ready to prove how "manly" she is, casue I would be kickin' her a$$.

Answer 8

Just so you know i'm a republican and appreciate the sterotype. I'm wondering what experiencing your basing your statement on as well. Yes don't ask don't tell exist for a reason but then I know a lot of the military that agree it's outdated. It's most likely to prevent hazing ect. But I know a lot of homosexual who serve openly. As long as they conform to military standards and do their job most soldiers i know have no problem with them. I know plenty of soldiers who would rather have a gay roomate or work with a gay soldier than one who is lazy and screws up. If the homosexual pulls their weight and takes their job seriously, most of the time the rest of the team doesn't have a problem working with them. If a soldier does have a problem with it then maybe that soldier shouldn't be army. The army is really teaching EO and tolerance now, you have a right to hold your own opinons but you still have to get along with your battle buddy no matter what beliefe or lifestyle he/she holds.

Answer 9

Don't ask don't tell in and of itself keeps discrimination out of the equation only if the gay or lesbian tells would there be discrimination and under the circumstances whats a guy or lesbian really looking to get out of the military? Never could understand but does that mean I'm discriminating? No! I'd just like honesty if they think it needs to be told?

Answer 10

Until medicine definetivly proves this is genetic and not a choice then that's the way it is.
Unit cohesion is more important that what you like or don't like. This policy is in place for a reason and a good one at that, if you as a civilian care to make military policy then join up.