Are women Pastors & churches who accept them worshipping God in Spirit & Truth or ignoring both?

Question

The fundamental question is, can you ignore clear teachings of scripture by an Apostle of Jesus Christ, and still believe that you are worshipping God within Truth as He understands it, and under control of the Spirit that He gives?

Paula r - I would totally agree with you were it not for the repeated teachings and practical actions seen in New Testament. You make a cultural and emotional argument, but it is scripturally weak.

Answer 1

Where in the Bible does God allow women to preach to men? Witnessing is one thing, preaching is something else.

Up Date:

paula r wrote:

"People have taken a section of scripture completely out of context."

"@ times I believe he calls willing women to ministry. God is more interested in a willing vessel than gender."

OK, show us from the Word of God were God allows women to preach to men? And while you are at it, please show us from the Word of God, were it reads "I think" or "I feel"?

Answer 2

Both the women and the churches are clearly ignoring the teachings of the Bible and the Spirit of God. Now I know that some can and will take verses of scripture out of the context they were written in and try to justify what they are doing.People do that all the time,but that does not change what God says about women upsurting authority over men.
By the way that includes Hillary Clinton!

Answer 3

NO, a church with a woman preacher cannot be worshipping both in Spirit and Truth. Scripture makes this very clear, doesn't it?

1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

These two verses alone seal it for me. I Tim. 2:12 makes it clear that a woman should never be in a teaching position or authority position over a man. I Tim 3:2 is the Biblical list of characteristics for pastors. Included in these qualifications is "the husband of one wife." A woman cannot be the husband of one wife, therefore, she cannot BIBLICALLY be a pastor.

Answer 4

I believe churches who have women pastors are/can worship in spirit/truth. People have taken a section of scripture completely out of context. There are many men God has called into the ministry. They won't receive the call. Therefore, @ times I believe he calls willing women to ministry. God is more interested in a willing vessel than gender.

Answer 5

Jesus chose men as His Apostles. Women have a special place in the Church, but a preacher is not a position for a woman.

Answer 6

Many will sacrifice truth for political correctness.

Answer 7

Preachers are men!
Only the REAL MEN!

Answer 8

When men fail, women fill the breaches!

Answer 9

yes

Answer 10

In a few places of the Bible, we find that the Apostle Paul said some things that were not inspired by God (see 1 Corinthians 11:3-10 and 1 Timothy 2:12-15). Although Paul was a Christian who was mightily used by God, we have to keep in mind that he was yet an imperfect human (as we all are) and we must be able to discern man’s flawed views from God’s word.

Adam was created before Eve but that doesn’t mean he was superior to Eve. Also, Adam was just as deceived as Eve and that’s why he ate the fruit.

In Christ, men and women are equal (Galatians 3:28). Both female and male believers in Christ are kings and priests unto God (Revelation 1:6) and God calls Christian women and men to ALL offices of ministry within the Church. In 1 Timothy 2:12, Paul said that he (not God) forbade women to teach men. In the Bible we see that God called many women to be leaders and teachers of men, women and children: prophets (Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Isaiah’s wife, Philipp’s four daughters), military leader and judge (Deborah), disciples (Mary, Martha, Joanna, Mary Magdalene, Susanna, and “many more”), deacon (Priscilla), and church leader (Lydia).

Furthermore, in Acts 2:17-18 it says:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

In the Church, God calls many Christian women to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors (or “shepherds”) and teachers of men, women and children.

In Ephesians 5:22, Paul instructs wives to submit to their husbands, however in the verse before he said that ALL Christians (both male and female) should equally submit themselves to one another:

Ephesians 5:21
Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

Both husband and wife must respectfully submit to each other. Neither is superior.

In Ephesians 5:25, Paul instructs husbands to love their wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it.

It is common sense that if the husband isn’t loving and righteous, the wife should not submit to him because as Christians, we are to obey God and not men.

On 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, it is understood that men should also stay silent while the preacher whether female or male is preaching, and if they missed or didn’t understand something, they should wait until later to ask their wives or a fellow brother or sister in Christ or do their own study. The main lesson is to not interrupt the service.

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