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Why has there been any changes (even saviors for that matter) over the course of religion? Shouldn't God have gotten it set the right way, the first time?

2007-11-28 07:37:43 · 14 answers · asked by thebuffettour 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Many argue the continuity of the testaments. They say
the God of the New Testament seems different that the
Old Testament God. Many deny the trinity, the deity of
Christ, not realizing that these things were taught in
the first book of Moses. John 5:46 For had ye believed
Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
John 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how
shall ye believe my words? Jesus said Moses wrote of
him.

The trinity they say was an invention of Paul. The
deity of Christ and invention of Paul. The Old
Testament they say does not teach these things.
Gen.126 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness: and let them have dominion over
the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and
over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over
every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

What is this image of God? Why is God refering to
himself in the plural? We could argue about the "Royal
We" or we could simply trust God and seek his truth.
We know man was created above the animals in the image
of God. Let's examine man's creation for the answer.

Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of
the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath
of life; and man became a living soul.

We see that man was created different than the animals
formed first from the dust (flesh) then God breathed a
breath of life (spirit) and they became a living soul.
man was made in the image of God above the animals
with flesh and a eternal spirit and these became a
living soul. so the difference in man and animals is
man was giving more than mere flesh which perishs but
also an eternal spirit and these are one soul. We are
more than one part and we have an eternal spirit and
this is the image of God who is more than one part and
is eternal. We are made above the animals who perish
with their flesh.

Did God reveal his plan to Moses? Did Moses write of
Jesus, as Christ himself said?

We know God is all knowing therefore knew man would
sin. Wouldn't an all knowing God know these things and
have a plan of salvation? Many claim God simply
forgave Adam for his disobedience and man can earn his
own salvation and that the atonement was an invention
by the writers of the New Testament. Let's examine
what God passed down to Moses written int he first
book of Moses the first scriptures God gave to man.

God's plan for man's salvation was given to Moses in
the story of the Garden of Eden.

Gen.2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in
Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow
every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for
food; the tree of life also in the midst of the
garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
This story is both literal and figuritive with
spiritual meanings. We see first their are two trees
in the midst of the garden a tree of life and a tree
of knowledge of good and evil. These trees are the
first things God mentions about the garden. We should
consider tha meanings of these two trees to be more
than literal trees as we do not know of any such trees
in this physical world. We have already considered
that God is more than one and man was made in God's
image made both flesh and spirit. We now should
consider both physical and spiritual meanings. We now
have a tree called the knowledge of good and evil and
a tree called the tree of life and we soon see from
the story one tree gives man knowledge of good and
evil and one gives man eternal life.
Let's consider the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
What gives man knowldge of good and evil? How did man
receive knowledge of good and evil from God? Can we
consider this God's righteouness? God's law? and the
tree of life we see if a man eats of it he lives
forever. What tree could this be that gives a man
eternal life? It must surely be safe to consider the
spiritual meanings of such incredible trees...The
first is the tree of knowledge of good and evil God's
righteouness the law, then the second could reasonably
be assumed to also be a nature of God. God is both
righteous and meciful could this be the meaning of the
two trees?
Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying,
Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that
thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
We learn that eating of the tree of knowledge of good
and evil will result in man's death. Why would God's
righteouness destroy man? Why would a tree that seems
to be a good thing mean death to man? Does the law
destroy man? It seems reasonable to asssume this tree
represents God's righteousness and his law. Can a man
live up to the righteousness of God? We see from this
that man was going to fall and that God also knew this
and had a plan of salvation for man this plan is the
tree of life.
Gen. 3: 1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any
beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he
said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not
eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of
the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst
of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it,
neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not
surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof,
then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as
gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for
food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree
to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit
thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband
with her; and he did eat.
The serpent? Yes the serpent also represents something
else. In Revelation it tells us the serpent is Satan
and it is he who tells Eve that she will not surely
die. We have the first lie of Satan to man that God is
not righteous you will not surely die God will
overlook your sin...This is one os Satan's favorite
lies that we do not need the tree of life, That God
will simply overlook sin. We so have the truth in the
first scriptures God gave to man, the first book of
Moses, Genesis. It shows God knew man would fall and
it shows that man would fall short of God's
righteousness the law and that sin does cause death.
We also see that though the law does condemen us God
has a plan of salvation and that plan does include the
tree of life our lord Jesus Christ who was in the
begining with God and is a part of the whole of God
and who is our tree of life our salvation who is the
true manna from heaven.
John 6
47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth
on me hath everlasting life.
48 I am that bread of life.
49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and
are dead.
50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven,
that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven:
if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever:
and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I
will give for the life of the world.
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying,
How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say
unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man,
and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath
eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink
indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood,
dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by
the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live
by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not
as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that
eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
It only makes sense that the scriptures first given to
man by God gives this same message of salvation as the
Gospel that God made man in his image and that God is
made up of Father, Son and Holy Spirit and that God is
righteous and meciful and the two trees in the garden
are the two natures of God and they are the law and
salvation through God who came in the form of man
Jesus Christ who is that tree of life that Moses did
write of who did atone for sin for those who accept
the atonement.

2007-11-28 07:50:33 · answer #1 · answered by djmantx 7 · 7 1

God never change and that is in the Bible which is our guide. He says He is the same yesterday, today and forever which can be found in The book of Hebrews chapter 13 and verse 8. The New Testament is a fulfillment of the Old Testament. Also the Bible was written by holy men* of God who were moved by the Holy Spirit (who is a part of the Godhead). The Old Testament tell of the creation, the death , burial and resurrection of Christ. Christ Himself quoted from the Old Testament scriptures telling what will be fulfilled. He also said not one jot or tittle will be removed from His words* and the entire Bible is the Word of God.Prayerfully read the Bible (it is even on line to read) and you will see how much this Book holds. It has poetry,maths, history to name a few. It is a whole library in itself.So remember if God never change, His Words never change either and they will stand forever. So there is just one tone in the 66 books of the Bible. 'God is Love'.

2007-11-28 16:23:53 · answer #2 · answered by Getwisehealth 2 · 1 0

I'm at a loss for your question. There has been a consistent tone of redemption throughout both the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament.

No shift in savior either. A messiah was promised to Adam and Eve. Faith in that promise was key to ancient faithfuls (See Abrahamic covenant).

2007-11-28 15:45:47 · answer #3 · answered by Consider_This 3 · 1 0

God has always known exactly what he is doing.

Man sometimes takes a while to understand it.

As you read the Bible, you will discover that there is a progressive revelation. Abraham, for example, learned certains things - there is only one God, the convenant of circumcision, and walking by faith. But he did not learn the 10 Commandments. Those came a few generations later through Moses, who had the advantage of already knowing what it took Abraham a lifetime to learn.

Then alone came others like David, who added praise and worship and the tabernacle services, or Isaiah who gave us insight into the coming "suffering servant". Each built on what the generation(s) before them had learned.

Kind of like how math was discovered. No one person invented counting, addition, subtraction, multiplication, fractions, ratios, trig, geometry, algebra, and calculus. It took many generations of building on the knowledge from before to finally get to calculus in the 1700s.

The Bible does not "change", but rather builds on the knowledge from before it. Just as algebra, with its replacing of numbers with symbols like "x", does not change math but build on what when before it.

Realize that also the Bible is a collectt of 66 books by over 40 authors. Each has their own unique writting style. God allowed their own personalities to show through what they wrote. So when you are dealing with books like "Joshua", which are the writings of a military leader, or books like 1&2 Chronicles, which are official court records of the "great deeds" performed by the kings, of course they will have a very different tone then something like the writings of Paul, which are the theological thesis of one of the most brilliant men in history. How could history and theology have the same tone?

When you take the time to follow the doctrines, images, theology and pictures of the Bible from end to end, it is remarkable in its consistency and unity. The smallest reference near the front of the book finding its fulfill in a major event near the end of the book.

And all of the book, every prophecy, image and doctrine, points to only one Savior, Jesus Christ. There is no reference to any other anywhere in the book.

2007-11-28 15:56:21 · answer #4 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 1 1

Because God didn't write the book, men did. Several, various men all with different perspectives.

2007-11-28 15:41:48 · answer #5 · answered by Lady Astarte 5 · 0 1

He decided to send His Son to save our sorry souls!

2007-11-28 16:40:03 · answer #6 · answered by White Dove 3 · 0 0

Its the same tone! You need to read!

2007-11-28 15:43:02 · answer #7 · answered by Little Angel 1 · 0 1

Why don't you plan to ask HIM that? You look like a fool asking man that question.

2007-11-28 15:42:48 · answer #8 · answered by JayDee 2 · 0 1

Arabs wrote the OT, Greeks wrote the NT. It isn't that hard to figure out.

2007-11-28 15:42:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I see no change.

2007-11-28 15:44:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Does the word "D'OH!" ring a bell?

2007-11-28 15:43:14 · answer #11 · answered by russj 3 · 0 1

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