a question for evolutionists?

Question

for the time span of evolution:
consider our sun.
it is shrinking at a steady rate each year, right? using up its fuel.
pick a length of time for evolution to occur... i'm not sure what number is guessed at right now.
now increase the sun's size at the rate it is shrinking for that number of years.
i calculated this out a while back, and anything over a million years is preposterous. the number of millions (i forget how many, but it was what the scientists were guessing at that time) i used put the sun's size way past pluto.

on the other hand, 6,000 years doesn't make much difference.

any explanations for this problem?

thanks

i understand that the rate of shrinkage might have changed a little bit, but still...

Answer 1

The problem is that you don't understand math and physics, hun.

I'm sorry.

this page:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/sun.htm
about how the sun works is designed for grade school kids.

Answer 2

Actually, as the sun uses up its fuel, it expands, since there is less gravity to hold it together. A Red Giant is a Sun that is almost completely burned up, yet is much larger then at any other part of the life. Also, it doesn't shrink or expand at the same rate all the time. It goes through a life cycle.

try researching this from a valid scientific source, and you will find that the sun fits perfectly with the age of the earth, and of our solar system.

Answer 3

After the sun was born, it was indeed shrinking, but the rate at which it is shrinking is slowing down. It is not a constant rate, so such calculations are null and void. The Sun could never be as small as Pluto, unless it pulled a supernova, and it expands before that happens. That amount of matter simply cannot compress that much without a huge gravitational force...

Answer 4

Ummm, sweetie, dou you have any idea at what rate the sun is shrinking--I think that if you got hold of accurate figures it would come to something like less than 1/1000th of 1% of it's entire mass (at present) per every million or so years.

Fact: it takes 8&1/2 minutes for sunlight to reach the Earth. Light travels at roughly 186,000 miles per second. Now multiply 186,000 x 60 x 8.5 and see just how many miles the Earth is from the sun---plenty of room for a little expansion, dont ya' think?

Answer 5

the sun is shrinking, but what you are forgetting is that the planet has not always been in this spot. Most likely, it was a passing object that got pulled in to the sun's gravitational field. The heat melted the ice, and life began. We are so insignificant, and have been here such a short time, that the time it took for the Earth to just get into its rotation around the sun would've been longer than there have been people.

Answer 6

Where are you getting this nonsense about the sun shrinking at a rate that would have problems a million years back? Also, there is no such thing as 'evolutionists', it's not a religiouse cult or philosophy...it is a scientific theory. The scientists that have studied the sun, have never made such preposterous claims as you are trying to. So, where did you come up with this crap?

Answer 7

I'm assuming your calculations are the same as those of Andrew Snelling and Russel Akridge.

Those calculations assume that some of the Sun's power comes from gravitational collapse. The theory that some of the Sun's power comes from gravitational collapse was discarded some 80 years ago in favor of the nuclear fusion theory.

The claim that the sun shrinks is also based on an assumption that the sun shrinks as the result of losing energy. It has not been experimentally confirmed. In fact, experiments have suggested that the size of the sun is constant. Here's an example:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE3D61539F935A25751C0A96E948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

Answer 8

I'm afraid you have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.

Highly trained specialists in the sciences, however, seem to have no problem with evolution and the time span of the earth being around 5 billion years.

I don't mean to leave such a stark reply, but there is no better way to express the situation.

Answer 9

Simply stated, the Sun ISN'T shrinking at a steady rate.

Particularly during the first few tens of millions of years, it expanded and contracted a fair bit before reaching an equilibrium between the thermonuclear explosions trying to tear it apart and the gravity trying to collapse it back in on itself.

You'd probably be better off reading a book on basic astronomy, than talking about things you clearly don't understand.

Answer 10

Well first:
There are no evolutionists, evolution is not a religion is a fact.

Evolution is not at "a time right now".

Your math is way off.

No, millions of years is not preposterous. It is if you limit time by your beliefs, which are not correct.

The scientists didn't guess it, they had an approximate based on data.

On the other hand we have different fingers. No, 6000 yrs is not much, it took me just that to write this answer.

Pro tip: Biology (evolution) is not astronomy.

Answer 11

If you take the fuel consumption and the percent remaining you get 4.5 billion years. If the Sun were shrinking, you might have a valid argument. In recent years it has actually enlarged slightly.