How odd is evolution?

Question

The evolution of the earth is based on the assumption that the key to the past is the present (things continue as they always have- this is used for earth processes), yet evolution of genetics is all about change. Also, how odd is it that the evolution that is observed is the degredation of organisms and loss of genetic information, yet evolutionists believe evolution has built up and gained genetic information. How odd is it that Evolution is considered to be fact when it is based on assumptions (the processes of yesterday are the same as today) that can not be proven to be false and are not possible to be verified as truth, while Creationism is based on the truth of the bible (which if it is true means Creationism is based on fact) and creationism is not considered fact. The point is Creationism is based on fact statements while Evolution is based on assumed statements and the only argument evolutionists have is that the bible is made-up. That of course is their only hope.

typical answers from atheists, if I am wrong tell me how. The geologic column was made up by the belief that the layers were laid down uniformly over millions of years. This is an assumption not a fact. The fossils are dated by those rocks that are in the layers so they to are based on that assumption. It is assumed that mutations have the ability to improve DNA and add abilities/ information to the genetic code. It has never been proven to be fact. The evolution we do see is organisms lose genetic information or the information gets mixed up. Dating methods are based on the assumptions that chemicals have decayed at the same rate throughout history. See it's not my understanding of evolution that is wrong, it's yours and that's why you continue to believe in it. If I am wrong then correct me. It's all based on assumptions.

I have seen the talkorigins site and everything on there has been disputed and none of the genetic changes they list are an increase of genetic information.

I did a yahoo search for "spontaneous generation of genetic material" I used quotes to get exactly what was stated and I get 3 results and none had anything to do with genetics and science. I believe you are the one listening to lies.

The point isn't if I know the bible is true. I was saying that it if it is true then creationism is based on Fact while evolution is based on assumtions. So it's kind of funny that people claim evolution to be fact when it is not based on facts while creation is considered to be false when it is based on truth that if it is true then it's fact. Now I do believe the bible to be true because of the research i've done. I've seen a lot of those atheists claims about the bible and a lot of them are retarded and come from not having an understanding of the bible. Atheist need to get pass whatever has made them angry at christians and do a little research into the truth of the bible. That means looking at a bunch of different christian views and deciding what the truth really is. Because there are lot of things that christians say that are not biblical. A great line in a song by DC Talk says that the biggest cause of atheism is christians themselves, I find that to be very true.

To that first guy, I am dying right now and so are you because that is the process of life, so I don't see how that helps your cause. And how does similarities in anything prove evolution. That's like saying the differences disprove evolution. It doesn't mean anything.

Answer 1

Evolution is so “plastic” that it can be expanded to fit any data. Even data that is exactly the opposite of what has been used in the past to teach evolution is twisted as new “proof” of evolution.

As Dr, Michael G. Houts said, “This illustrates another key (non-scientific) feature of the theory of evolution. The theory is constructed in such a way that no matter what the evidence, evolutionists can claim it supports their religion. If a bird is brightly colored, it evolved vivid feathers to attract a mate. If a bird’s plumage is drab, it evolved that drabness to provide camouflage. If similar structures are derived from similar gene sequences, it is because the two species share a common ancestor. If similar structures occur in species that are genetically quite different, it is because of “convergent evolution.” No matter what the evidence, in the eye of the believer, evolution is true.

One criterion for determining if a theory is scientific is if it is falsifiable. In other words, the theory must be constructed in a way that an experiment could be devised to prove it false. In the discussion of similarities between organisms, the theory of evolution is purposely constructed so that no experiment can prove it false.”

I have to agree with T. Wallace: “A major reason why evolutionist arguments can sound so persuasive is because they often combine assertive dogma with intimidating, dismissive ridicule towards anyone who dares to disagree with them. Evolutionists wrongly believe that their views are validated by persuasive presentations invoking scientific terminology and allusions to a presumed monopoly of scientific knowledge and understanding on their part. But they haven’t come close to demonstrating evolutionism to be more than an ever-changing theory with a highly questionable and unscientific basis. (The situation isn’t helped by poor science education generally. Even advanced college biology students often understand little more than the dogma of evolutionary theory, and few have the time [or the guts] to question its scientific validity.)”

Answer 2

You seem to have some misconceptions about evolution. For one thing, it is not based on the assumption that "things continue as they always have." That's a very unrefined way of explaining an assumption on which evolution and all of science is based. It's the assumption that the laws of physics don't change over time, or if they do, they change in such a way that is also determined by natural law.

You also say that it's assumed that genetic information can be added, but this has been observed in many studies. Here is a reference that will point you to some of the studies:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB102.html

You're right about creationism requiring the literal truth of the Bible. Unfortunately, it's not possible for the entire Bible to be literally true, otherwise certain contradictory facts would both have to be simultaneously true, and this cannot happen. Here's a list of contradictions that suggest that the Bible cannot be literally true throughout:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

Your claim that "the only arguments evolutionists have is that the bible is made-up" is completely false. The evidence supporting evolution can be found in the fossil record and in genetic information. Here's another site with an explanation of some pieces of evidence:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-research.html

Answer 3

The evidence for evolution is and has been interpreted from a Philosophical and ideological Bias, The answers given by adherents to Evolution here in R&S is proof of the bias and agenda, Atheism has to have an alternate explanation—other than a Creator—for how the universe and life came into existence.
Darwin once identified himself as a Christian but as a result of some tragedies that took place in his life, he later renounced the Christian faith and the existence of God. Evolution was invented by an atheist.
What is sad is that Christians are falling into this Trap and trying to fit evolution into the Bible (Theistic Evolution) thinking they can make it fit.
Lee Stroble in his video listed below “ The Case for the Creator” stated (5 min. 28 sec into the video) The Case for a Creator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajqH4y8G0MI
http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=FJ0J0JNU

That “There is no way you can Harmonize Neo Darwinism with Christianity, I could never understand Christians who would say “ Well I believe in God yet I believe in Evolution as well” You see Darwin’s idea about the development of life led to his theory that modern science now generally defines as an undirected process completely devoid of any purpose or plan,”. Now how could God direct an undirected process? How could God have purpose in a plan behind a system that has no plan and no purpose? It just does not make sense.
It didn’t make sense to me in 1966 and it doesn’t make sense to me now.
The Apostle Paul wrote to His Son Timothy stating that “ in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, [because] they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn [their] ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.”

Those Christians who believe in evolution have no idea how that effects their theology.
What is theistic evolution?
http://www.gotquestions.org/theistic-evolution.html


Eternity is a Long Time to be wrong about this

What Hath Darwin Wrought?
http://www.whathathdarwinwrought.com/

Darwin's Deadly Legacy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qHb3uq1O0Q
Darwin & Eugenics....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuTPHvedOOU&feature=related

Creation In The 21st Century - Planet Earth Is Special 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUjhgsEJFw

Creation in the 21st Century - The Evidence Disputes Darwin 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbCbfzmhAN8

Some modern scientists who have accepted the biblical account of Creation
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/

More than 600 Scientist with PHD’s who have Signed A SCIENTIFIC DISSENT FROM DARWINISM
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?id=660

Answer 4

evilution is only surpassed in idiocy by aborting your child because you didn't plan it or some other horrific excuse.

Wiley, I wish I could email you because there are so many questions I would like to ask you but I will say this, I truly enjoy your answers and your knowledge of creation vs "evil"ution. I wish I knew where you gained your knowledge and what you know about Mt St Helen and the evidence available there. Even though I can't email you, you can email me.

Answer 5

You have a lot to learn about evolution. There has been observed increase in genetic information. Evolution is a theory, which means it is falsifiable, and supported by evidence. I am assuming you have only been taught about evolution be a bad school system, and by other Creationists.

Answer 6

your view of evolution is very odd and not based on facts. It's based on misinformation and lack of understanding. Of course it doesn't make sense. What you write does not make sense to me either.
I don't have any problems with my view of evolution. I do have a lot of problems with Creationism.
You better pray then that the processes which worked yesterday will work today too, otherwise you are dying right now.

PS. sorry, I really don't have the time to fix what years of schooling haven't achieved. You are asking for a bit much there. If you pay me I give you homework help, OK? First homework: look up the cellular and molecular basis of color vision and it's distribution in different species. Study similarities and differences of different opsins.

Answer 7

"Creationism is based on fact statements while Evolution is based on assumed statements"

I'm sorry, but what facts is Creationism based on?

You choose to believe that some omnipotent being created everything in 6 days, over the geologic evidence that this planet (one of millions) has been in existance for millions of years before any kind of humanoid appeared.

I choose to think you need to open your mind to the truth rather than following in the footsteps of people who chose fantasy over reality.

Answer 8

I have one question.

How do you know the Bible is true? Wasn't it written by men? I don't care how inspired they might have been, they were still fallible.

How can you demonstrate that anything in the Bible, which cannot be subjected to the scientific method, is fact?

Believing the Bible is not based on fact. Its based on faith.

Answer 9

Spontaneous increases in genetic information have been observed.

Creationists never tell the truth and claim they have the facts. How odd is that?

Answer 10

It's "questions" (it's not a question) like this that end up with atheists like me being accused of having no better answer than to point out that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

But if that's how it is, that's how it is.