Atheists, who said these quotes?

Question

Who do you think made these quotes?

"science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind ... a legitimate conflict between science and religion cannot exist."

"To be sure, the doctrine of a personal God interfering with natural events could never be refuted ... by science, for [it] can always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet been able to set foot."

"If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."


I'm sure it must have been a pretty stupid guy, right? How dare he say that there is no point to science without religion! Also, he said that science has discovered a world so structured that he believe someone created it!

Also, I KNOW this man does not believe in the Judeo-Christian God, so don't bother pointing that out. However, he is one of the greatest scientists of our time, and the fact that even he believes in God says a lot.

I find it very humorous that Atheists claim to be so smart by "knowing" there is no God, but yet this may, who is 10 times smarter than anyone on here, Atheist or not, studied science all his life and came to the conclusion that there PROBABLY is a God.

Score one for the religious folk.

Answer 1

Why did you assign yourself a point?
By copy-pasting quotes then making making leaps in logic does not a point make.
You yourself say he doesn't believe in a Judeo-Christian god. How is this religious? He could just believe in some immense force that got bored one day and made stuff. Then that was the end. No benevolence, no malice, just indifference i.e. the complete opposite of what you believe [with the exception of there being no god].

And sureeeeee there's no point to science without religion, although I have no clue where you garnered that from the above quotes.If he meant science being lame meaning not awesome, then I'll have to disagree with him. He meant science being crippled then I will, again, have to disagree with him. The only way I can see it being crippled is less funding from religous institutions. But, with the abolishment of religion, I'm sure a great number of people would see reason to continuing advancing in science.
As for there being no point to science without religion, let's try that one out and see how many people die from horrible diseases while praying to god to save them instead of finding cures.

Answer 2

I second the statement that Einstein is not god either. An argument from aurthority does not prove an assertion.

Anyway, more Einstein:
"Strange is our situation here on Earth. Each of us comes for a short visit, not knowing why, yet sometimes seeming to divine a purpose. From the standpoint of daily life, however, there is one thing we do know: that man is here for the sake of other men -- above all for those upon whose smiles and well-being our own happiness depends.

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms.

I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.

It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere.... Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."

Answer 3

As everyone has said, it was Einstein. I'm just wondering how you can have so totally misinterpreted the last quote you gave. Nowhere in that quote is anything suggesting he thought the world was created. Rather, he was saying that his idea of religion was incredible respect for the natural forces that created such a structured world. And the second quote certainly seems to be saying not that there is a personal god, but that such a concept dwells purely in the supernatural, not the scientific. Like Einstein, very few atheists deny that god exists, we just say that there is no evidence to say god exists, and thus no reason to believe that god exists.

Answer 4

Einstein believed nature and the laws of physics themselves could be defined as God. He believed in Spinoza's type of God that was God as Nature itself. This pantheistic outlook has more in common with some forms of atheism than it does with a religious personal God belief.

In his own words:

A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestation of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this sense alone, I am a deeply religious man.

Moreover, Einstein strongly resented having his religious convictions misrepresented:

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

Clearly, Einstein's "God" is not at all like the God that most people think of when they hear the word. Neither is the "God" of the famous cosmologist and mathematician, Stephen Hawking, whose talk of "the mind of God" has given comfort to many religious believers. Hawking also is a pantheist. When asked by CNN's Larry King whether he believed in God, Hawking answered:

Yes, if by God is meant the embodiment of the laws of the universe.

Did Einstein believe in God? The answer, as Hawking pointed out, depends on what you mean by "God". In one sense (the Pantheist sense), Einstein did believe in God. But in another sense he didn't. Indeed, except for his deciding to use the term "God" in a way that is unfamiliar to most people, his views are indistinguishable from those of someone who is an unabashed atheist.

Answer 5

Quote mining Einstein shows has dishonest people are.

The first half of the first quote simply states a metaphor for the the scientist's quest for truth and understanding deriving from religion.

He qualified the second half, "During the youthful period of mankind's spiritual evolution human fantasy created gods in man's own image, who, by the operations of their will were supposed to determine, or at any rate to influence, the phenomenal world. Man sought to alter the disposition of these gods in his own favor by means of magic and prayer. The idea of God in the religions taught at present is a sublimation of that old concept of the gods. Its anthropomorphic character is shown, for instance, by the fact that men appeal to the Divine Being in prayers and plead for the fulfillment of their wishes."

The use of the elipsis to alter the meaning in the second quote is pure dishonesty.

"To be sure, the doctrine of a personal God interfering with natural events could never be refuted, in the real sense, by science, for this doctrine can always take refuge in those domains in which scientific knowledge has not yet been able to set foot."

He continues, "But I am convinced that such behavior on the part of representatives of religion would not only be unworthy but also fatal. For a doctrine which is to maintain itself not in clear light but only in the dark, will of necessity lose its effect on mankind, with incalculable harm to human progress."

What precedes your third quote is particularly revealing, "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."

Answer 6

The same guy who thought that quarks arent real. You cant be right every time.

By the way, he's also the sole reason Ether is no longer a legit theory. Ether was based almost entirely upon Christianity (it comes from the idea that angels were pulling the planets around the sun).
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Did this give anyone else the urge to post a bunch of questions taking the Bible out of context? Luke 14:26 anyone?

Answer 7

People like you are sooooo predictable! You refute science in favor of religion. You make an either or situation of it. And then you use Einstein and sometimes Darwin to "prove" that religion trumps science. You select quotes out of context or repeat lies to make some kind of point. Can't you people at least be intellectually honest?

Answer 8

Oh, yes Amen!

These heathen atheists think that they know everything and they don't! They're going to have to repent or suffer hellfire REAL soon!

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Ha! Einstein wasn't religious in any sense as a matter of fact he was Pantheist and only referred to God when trying to explain all of the general wonder of the universe.

You wouldn't believe this, but the atheist is the only one looking at the world rationally.

Score one for the rationalists!

Answer 9

Einstein

Answer 10

Einstein is a bit out dated don't you think why not ask a few up and coming scientist in the quantum physic area of today and you might just get some surprises as the world marches on into infinity.

If you mark time then you will mark time on your grave. If you march forward then you will reach infinity of time.