What will it take for Muslim's to wake up & accept that we aren't living in the 7th Century but in the 21st?

Question

No single book written centuries ago has unique authority to veto all other ideas – it can only clash in modern western societies where intellectual curiosity is valued and encouraged.

X: Calling me a bigot for asking a question is something of an exaggeration.

John Lemon: Their religion keeps Muslim's stuck in the 7th Century, it's like a fossilised community, ossified and without growth, therefore dead.

Aslam092: My whole point is that we have escaped our dark ages...but what of you?

Tuberoot: You make a good point, the religion is presented as historically unchanged but it's as fake as a reproduction antique, it's only retro in style rather than authentic.

Answer 1

maybe if nobody would help and support the Islamic countries anymore. as long they can get away with it they wont change. if nobody helps them anymore when they are fighting their "holy wars" and when nobody supports medical aid,food etc then there are 2 ways,they start thinking or they kill each other.

any true Muslims dont cause trouble. its only those who are misusing the religion and form rules which are apparently based on Allahs words.

Answer 2

An act of God, them along with other people. So not just them.

But still, there is a continuing behavior with them which they don't even seem to be aware of. I belong to an online book source, which shows me some of the odd things that Muslims today say. They seem to be attempting to say that Islam was always like it is. When it is not so.

I am going to show you something, if you want to read it, then read it, otherwise, don't read it. But it poses to me a simple fact of human nature - to change what is used as time goes on. They are not interested - it seems, in finding their roots. The past seems therefore shrouded because they are sup[posed to believe what they believe today, as If it was always the way they think it is.

If a modern Muslim looked to the past the way a scholar did, would they remain unchanged? I don't think so.

Here is a bit of what I have read about them. Read only as much as you want to:

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CHAPTER 5
Approaches and problems

The term “Islam, ” like any other historical abstraction of comparable scope, indicates a phenomenon of great complexity and constantly evolving dimensions. This should go without saying; unfortunately, given how easily and naturally we fall back on the simple term to describe the complex organism, it bears repeating. Islam was not fully formed at the death of the Prophet Muhammad in 632, nor a few years later when it burst out of its Arabian homeland, nor even many decades later when it was clear that the rule of those who called themselves “Muslims” was permanent. The story of the emergence during the seventh and eighth centuries of particularly Islamic identities and patterns of religious authority can be read as a continuation of that of the focusing of religious identities which characterized the late antique Near East. The questions posed by the unexpected appearance on the scene of enthusiastic monotheists from the Arabian desert forced adherents of the older faiths to articulate more precisely those contours which defined them against their rivals. But it is also true that Islam itself only took shape through a process of dialogue with the other faith traditions. Indeed, it is misleading to speak of the “appearance” or “rise” of Islam, if those words convey a sense of unproblematic apparition as sudden as that of the Arab warriors before the bewildered Byzantine or Sasanian armies. It would be safer to say that Islam “emerged, ” gradually and uncertainly, over the decades–an “ill-defined period of gestation” 1 –which followed the death of the Prophet Muhammad in 632.

The Formation of Islam: Religion and Society in the Near East, 600-1800
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EDIT: The point is: They are NOT back in the 7th century. Though it would seem that they were. What they are in is a production of Muslim teachers and politicians who make them think that they are doing it as it alway has been done - which is not true! So they are even MORE messed up than it would appear. They are programmed to think the way they think! This is not the Islam of origin that we see. It is an artificial product that took centuries of development!

Answer 3

Muslims were the most enlightened people after the Muslim conquests of the 8 - 9 centuries AD, Europe was in the beginning of the dark middle ages
the Muslims regressed during the last days of the ottoman empire. reverting to tribalism.
The extremist Muslim movements are an attempt to go back to the good old days, but the results of Muslim law are in the wrong way.

Answer 4

what are the characteristics of the 21st C. that you want muslims to follow, is it walking naked in the streets?, is it turning a women's body into a selling figure? is it having children with no fathers? is it living for no reason but self- indulgence? or may be you want muslims to believe that this whole universe is created just for fun and it's probably just an accident that there are galaxies and planets and living organisms, and therefore quit worshipping God?

Answer 5

Who cares your encouragements!

God is the Creator and authority!

His final word ( AL QURAN )is with us to show the right way of life ( Here & hereafter ).

Europe was awoken by Muslims when your ancestors were sleeping in the Dark Ages!

If you still mind to thank Muslims then read history of your Dark Ages and be happy!

Answer 6

well, i guess that for many people this 7th century would be a better place than 21st where they have to live. the world around is not that perfect and what makes anybody think it's better? and please remember that islam comes from arabia, which was in this time the most developed place all over the world.

Answer 7

I'm with you all the way.
The claims made by ahmad above are ridiculous. Are Persians Arabs? No. We use Persian-inspired numerals. Muslims led Europe out of the dark ages? Yeah, and are now leading the world BACK into the 7th Century.
I have a teddy bear. His name is Mohammed.

Answer 8

About the same as it will take fundamentalist Jews and Christians to stop taking direction from their Bronze Age god.

Answer 9

Wake up from what? Oh! You mean just go along with every other fool in the world? No. We live for Allah and for Him only.

Look at the Amish and their lifestyle. It's fascinating. And I admire them for their courage and strength to stand up for what they believe. And besides, we have cars verses buggys. So we're caught up. :)

Answer 10

I am not Muslim but know a few and they are living in the 21st century. What century are you living in?