Why are so many people so judgemental when they don't have all the facts?

Question

I posted a question about breeding teacup puppies earlier. No backyard breeders or puppy mill here. We are state licensed and inspected. We have an "open door" policy to our prospective customers. They can come anytime they like to look at ALL of our dogs and puppies, check out the health, condition, and cleanliness.

If any of the people who answered the question I posted up to this point had any education at all.(I, am a retired nurse, who HAS done extensive research!0 You would know, that the according to the Veterinary Association, puppy breeders can expect to lose 17% of their puppies under the absolute best of conditions, even if a Vet breeds them. "TEACUP" puppies? If you who answered so rudely would look up the standards for the CHIHUAHUA, the correct weight for the breed starts at 1 pound! Why do I breed puppies? Because I love them, and many ppl want a gorgeous purebred puppy, instead of some elses mistake. TY to the lady who actually gave me the answer.

Answer 1

To be judgmental is a man's nature...it has become widely practiced that more people judge on what they hear or what they see without even weighing facts.....this negative characteristic of a man is directly connected to the way he thinks and decide about people....Most of them are self-righteous and they think they are the moral ones, the good ones and that others make a lot of m istakes..and the more they play clean about themselves, the m ore they become judgmental! And for you I strongly believe that you are a qualified breeder so you can legally open your own shop and for the tea cups....pls continue taking care of them.....hard to find you know!!

Answer 2

Teacup is just a nick name and there is nothing wrong with using it. It just lets people know what size the puppy will be. They will ask anyway some people want the smallest they can get. And yes you can breed dogs if you love them. But you must also make sure the parents are healthy. And no all those test are not nessasary they are not 100% accurate and you do not know what that 2-5% of the puppies will come up with anyway. And no do not let just anyone come and see your pups. They will soon Identify you as like a petshop and just somewhere they can just see cute puppies as well as making them sick by carrying germs they are too much for tiny puppies not to mention that if you have t-cups they are way too small to be handled that much.

Answer 3

You will breed a 1 or 2 pound dog???

Anyone with sense or a sense of ethical breeding practices wouldn't breed a female that small EVER!!!

Small dogs have enough troubles whelping they don't need to be any smaller.

No one purposely aims for breedind dogs that small that is ethical and reputable.

My question is how are you helping the breed or bettering the breed by breeding 1-2 pound dogs? How is that bettering the breed? What genetic tests have you performed?

Teacup isn't a term used by any reputable breeder!!!

And why are people so judgemental because we care about the future of our breeds and we care about our animals. We care about puppy buyers, so that they don't buy a puppy that is sickly.

Answer 4

I have to agree with the others if you are a true chihuahua breeder you know the word TEA-Cup is just a made up name all chihuahuas are under the toy breed and in order to have a healthy chihuahua it needs to be over 3 lbs any time one is under 3 lbs you are in great danger of sugar drops and it is very dangerous to let people just walk in to see the chihuahuas a lot of the illness is air bound and yes they can catch it from people if they have been in contract with a dogs that have had it the word TEA-CUP is why everyone has wrote what they did a true breeder wants a better chihuahua with every litter and don't try to breed for the to small to be healthy ones

Answer 5

I did not see your origional question and sorry if you feel you did not get the advice from a general forum you where looking for..
Part of your problem is,,

1) you posted a breeding question here.. instead of a dog specific info or breed forum..
it would have been better to ask your associates on the chihuahua club.. then here.. and less judgment..

2) if you did suffer dealths,, yes death is part of the deal with breeding,, actually death rates are as high as 30% from birth to weaning.. but this is in normal breeds,, not ones selected for abnormal traits.. extreme size, confromation (pugs bulldogs) and such.. but it is also considered that with propper intervention, and modern puppy management methods death rates as low a zero can be expected as the norm... not abnormal..
Any pup that dies, at birth or otherwise should have a autopsy done,, a lot of information can be had,, about potential infectious processes, developmental problems, genetic defects.. BTW.. not terribly expensive.. but worth it long term if your concern is to breed healthy dogs..

3) use of the term teacup,, This is not a accepted size in any breed,, but a term used to name a size variety that is not accepted by a breed standard.. or give a cute name to somthing abnormal to fit a demand for the designer puppy market.. YOU may be reputable,, but honestly by breeding teacups,, using the term have automatically associated yourself with the numerous unethical breeders out there..sorry..

So the end result is,, yes people will judge..

About licensed.. to need or get USDA license.. you have to be a COMMERCIAL breeder.. that sells dogs..to petstores, wholesale or the public.. Regualar small scale hobby breeders do not need USDA.. licenses.. and unfortunaly this too is a indication of a commercial operation Vs a hobby breeder..

I really would get in touch with some respected people in your breed,, Join a breed club,, if not already a member..unfortunaly your reaserch has provided you with the tools to breed dogs, for enjoyment,, and perhaps some extra cash...but has not provided you with the informtion and tools to ensure that your dogs, are looked on as comming from a reputable source.. or seperate you from all the commercial, puppy mill, or Back yard breeders outhere.. IF you really care,, them take the next step..
Part of breeding dogs,, esp purbred dogs.. DOES involve judgement and evaluation from others.. either in the show ring, performance ring, peers, or general public... it is up to you to step up,, and ensure not only are your dogs are healthy happy and raised in clean enviroments.. This is only one small first step.. but working hard to earn the respect and develop the quality that EVERY one wants.. you said it yourself.. you wanted to breed instead of someone elses mistakes (judgement)

Good luck
Amanda

Answer 6

If you were a reputable breeder, you'd know that there are no such thing as teacup puppies. To breed because puppies because you "love them" is no good reason to breed. You're just another BYB.

Answer 7

You know, when you get on here stating that you breed many kinds of dogs, and you are inspected and licensed, you SOUND like a puppy miller!! There is no such thing as a Teacup! How many of these dogs have you championed???

Answer 8

Here's the American Kennel Club's breed standard for the Chihuahua, regarding weight:

Size, Proportion, Substance
Weight - A well balanced little dog not to exceed 6 pounds. Proportion - The body is off-square; hence, slightly longer when measured from point of shoulder to point of buttocks, than height at the withers. Somewhat shorter bodies are preferred in males. Disqualification - Any dog over 6 pounds in weight.

"Not to exceed 6 pounds" is not the same as "starting at 1 pound". A breeder's goal should be a healthy, well balanced animal....size is only ONE aspect of the breed standard. Deliberately breeding for extremely small size, and disregarding the other aspects of health and quality, will produce an inferior animal. As stated before, extremely small dogs- BY DESIGN- come with a higher percentage of health problems. Most breeders want to AVOID health problems....why then, would you deliberately breed for such a small size that would promote such health problems???

As to the 17% mortality rate....which "Veterinary Association" are you referring to? The AVMA? The AAHA? AVAW? There are several to choose from. And 17% is a rather odd percentage to come up with....unless you are talking about HUNDREDS of puppies....?? Most breeders I know MIGHT have a litter once every 2 yrs.....How many puppies do YOU produce per year???

Furthermore....your operation sure sounds like a puppy mill to me. You produce large numbers of puppies, of many different breeds. You're "state licensed and inspected" which is a joke in and of itself, the minimum standards of housing and care in a "licensed" commercial breeding facility are ridiculous. You can be "clean and compliant" and still breeding dogs in a commercial factory farm atmosphere. Not a responsible way to breed dogs, and not the place someone should go for a family pet.

This video details actual USDA guidelines for cage size and housing requirements for a commercial kennel facilty. No dogs up to their elbows in filth or other "heart wrenching" images, just actual excerpts from the USDA's guidelines, and photos of clean, 100% legal and compliant kennel operations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4r-FcXAXcE

I sure wouldn't want MY dog to live that way. I wouldn't want to buy a puppy from someone who subjected their dogs to a life of living in a kennel and acting as a brood mare until they died.

There is no shortage of "gorgeous purebred puppies".....you're just breeding more and adding to the problem, and paying your bills out of the uterus of your breeding females. If you really loved puppies, you'd visit your local shelter and see how many "gorgeous purebred DOGS" end up there and end up being KILLED because of breeders who will sell a dog to ANYONE with no regard for where it'll end up.

How many puppies have you sold? Of those puppies, how many do you know WITHOUT A DOUBT are still in their original homes? What kind of home screening do you do before selling a puppy? What would you do if a puppy owner contacted you 10 years after buying a puppy and could no longer keep it? How do you know people aren't buying your puppies and starting their own negligent breeding program? What would you do if you found out a puppy you sold was in a kill shelter on the other side of the country, 5 years after you sold it?? What do you do when a buyer contacts you and tells you his 5 yr old dog has luxating patellas?

A quality, responsible breeder would have an easy answer for all these questions....but I'm guessing you probably don't. I'm by no means anti-breeding....but I wholeheartedly believe if you do breed, breed RESPONSIBLY.

Your reasons and methods certainly don't sound responsible....they sound commercial. Dogs aren't livestock, they're not a commodity, people shouldn't pay their bills off the backs of their dogs. People already view pets as "disposable" this is why 5 million of them die in animal shelters every year. The commercial dog breeding industry is one of the worst contributors to the pet overpopulation problem. Pat yourself on the back, you're sure doing a great job adding to it.

Answer 9

well TEACUP is a made up term... Responsible breeders breed to BETTER the breed as a whole ,, not because "they love little puppies"
you ARE a puppymill/backyard breeder if you are not actively showing your dogs in the sport, and if you are breeding solely to sell puppies to the general public...

spay your pets,,,

Answer 10

Sorry but if you are breeding "teacups" you are a back yard breeder or miller.

Most puppy mills ARE licenced and inspected! Actually, I dont know of a reputable breeder who is licenced... because you do not need a licence to breed.

The standard for Chi's are under 6 pounds, however a good breeder does NOT breed for the smallest pups possible. Health, Temperment and Standard are what reputable breeders breed for. Do you use any of these tests to check your stock for genetic disease.. OFA, PennHip, CERF, BAER, Optigen? Do you show your dogs to proove that they fit standard? There's more to it than small size and papers!

No reputable breeder uses the word "teacup" because its not a true size, just a label used for unhealthy runt puppies. Because you are breeding for smaller sizes your are compromising your dogs' health. This is why you are having high death rates.

I know many reputable breeders and they have very low death rates.