Do you really think that Rudd the DUD?

Question

and his union friends are going to do the right thing for Australia?Lets face it labour is good for only one thing and that is getting us into debt.Just look at their last try at running the country a whopping big bill of 95 billion dollars.And who fixed it the Liberal Government yes John Howard.Well for all those people who voted labour you made your bed now lie in it.

well folks it's like this workplace and all that jazz is a lot of bull.work or stay at home well under labour you really don't have to work you will get the dole now a lot easier.so all those who really do work have to pay for the once with excusses.

11 jenny you are a 2 timer you vote as it suits you . with people like you one wonders about the loyalty to their country.Great worry also for Australia if you switch your loyalty as it suits you.

Answer 1

I don't agree with you I am sorry..
First of all, we must respect democracy, people has made it's choice, and new government has a clear mandate, not just from one area but across the whole country.. it is no point for this kind of sour grapes anymore...

No matter how much surplus one government can make, if doesn't benefit the common folks, and if doesn't win people's trust (by their votes), it is not a good government.

I am not a pro lab or person, but I am a true believer of democracy!

Speaking of John Howard, although I respect him but clearly he and his policy are responsible for the the total defeat of his party we saw last Saturday.

People are not stupid! If they want to Unionist to return, they would have voted Labor in last election, but they didn't. But this workchoice law together with Mr Howard's stand on War, Climate change has made people change their mind.

For all those young and old Liberals, if you love this great nation of ours, please stop all these bitter insults, let the past be past, look into future. Be a strong opposition so the government can be kept in good shape.

I don't know what the others think, but I love our democracy.

Answer 2

Hey Jack - You bought the labor lies in the election hook, line and sinker. Home loan interest rates under Howard were 13.5% capped (look it up if you don't believe me). They were never 22% as labor spin machine claimed.
The highest home loan interest rates were under labor in the late eighties at 17.5%.
You would have been much better off under Howard as treasurer than keating. Of course things got really bad in the early nineties when keating gave us the recession we had to have. We got 1 million unemployed (11%) and 4% GDP deficets (equivalent of $40 billion dollars a year in todays terms).
Labor can't manage money, just look at the states which are going heavily into debt even though we are experiencing the best economic conditions in 30 years.

Edit - Labor started the sell off of assets (Commonwealth Bank and Qantas) and STILL couldn't balance the budget. Keating even promised tax cuts at the 93 election, made them law and stopped them when the budget blew out.
Miss Schlonky - Please stop pretending you are the only person here with an education or a qualification. A lot of peolpe here have informed opinions and have studied economics, they just don't fell the need to shove it down everyone elses throats. Just because someone has a different opinion to your own does not make them wrong. Value the debate and our democratic right to disagree.

Answer 3

I don't want to keep lying in the bed Howard and Co made us, thanks. Yeah, we're currently lying in a bed to the tune of $500 billion net foreign debt. The Libs basically had an economic golden ticket handed to them by Keating so they shifted government debt sideways, sold off our public assets and taxed the bejesus out of us... while starving everything else. Hmmm, real smart if they should say so themselves...?? If only I could take and not give so much - I'd have a surplus too! Let's not even get started on the mortgage or start thinking about the REAL unemployment rate!

Hey, how about you just get used to the fact that Howard is gone - he just lied too much and eventually got booted out - so do us all a favour and go with the flow and please stop damning your fellow countrymen? What is the point?

You obviously haven't studied economics - I have, and it really isn't anywhere near as bad as Howard and co. tried to make you think when they wanted your vote. In fact, the ALP approach should be a whole lot more promising in the 21st century after 11 years of starvation and unimagination. If you're not convinced, please study economics at uni and read the ALP policies between the lines and let your curiosity be naturally aroused. Just wait and see. But for heaven's sake, quit your ignorant b*tching 'cos it's just not constructive!!!

Answer 4

Dear Someone...

the election is over .. and to quote a phrase from sport

SCOREBOARD SCOREBOARD SCOREBOARD...


Ok ... Now having removed that little bit of juvenile behaviour from my mind... I have to say this....

Yes for those of us who voted AGAINST Howard... we HAVE made our bed .. and however it turns out .. YES we WILL have to lie in it.....

BUT please... let's give it a LITTLE longer than a week to Do The Chicken Little thing.....

The Dynamics of Politics change .. Rudd is considered Right of centre in the Labor Party ... maybe you will be pleasantly surprized as to how things will turn out....

Already Brendan Nelson has thrown his support behind Rudd signing Kyoto... so does that make Nelson Left of Centre in the Liberal party ??

YOU have to face up to the fact ... whether you like it or not... that the people of australia in a majority had had enough of The John Howard Means of governing the nation ...

Now again .. IF we end up in a mess .. well we have to take the responsibility for placing The Labor Government in power... and IF the Liberal party have re-grouped and evolved .. MAYBE we will vote them back in ( though I know quite a few of the people who supported Rudd during the election are very loyal Labor supporters... I'm a political Hussy .. I vote 'em in and IF i am unhappy.. I will vote ' em out too NO LOYALTY


so let's not whine about who won and what MIGHT happen.. Let's try and work together as a united nation .. and see just what happens ..

again Watch time fly ...
vote 'em in
vote 'em out

It's NOT the end of the world.

EDIT :

ALSO ... if people are unhappy with the way unions behave .. IF they are Union members .. THEY CAN RESIGN ...

and if they aren't union members .. MAYBE they CAN join a union .. and by the majority of numbers .. gain control of them OR at least have SOME influence in how they behave
( yeah I know NOT easy ..BUT then you can resign and send the union a message)


EDIT: ROTFLMAO... hell I didn't know I had to be engaged or married to a political party ... and honey YOU better BLESS the swinging voter ... because it is they who MAY re-instate your beloved Liberal party ...

YOU can NOT always remain politically stagnant ,which is what some *LOYAL* voters are .. the thing is if a Government .. IE ANY PARTY'S GOVERNMENT does the wrong thing by our nation's people.. YOU must vote them out .. no matter your leanings . the MOST patriotic thing a voter can do is remove a government that they think is not doing the right thing by the people....

i question YOUR loyalty to the country if you think you have to support ONE side .. all the time....

Now spit those bitter grapes out and go live a happy life DESPITE the change in government ...

Answer 5

Do you honestly believe that people go in to elections without a selfish attitude. Politicians for centuries have run for office not on whats best for the people but whats best for them. That is how I vote now, whats in it for me that was why I voted against Howard he had done nothing for me, and he planed to do nothing for me so he had to go simple. Say I don't have any loyalty I don't care because in my mind loyalty is a two way street and it must be earned not given just because your parents say so.

Answer 6

Labor hasn't done the right thing by Australia since the end of WW2. Back then, the Party really was for the "best for the working person". Only one thing can happen if Unions start pushing for "Unrealistic" working conditions. We become uncompetitive within the global market. The cost of Australian made product become too expensive both here and internationally, the imported equivalent is much cheaper, we buy the cheaper item (nature of the beast) and jobs in Australia become unstable. We import more and more foreign items, particularly from Asia where working conditions are way below acceptable, we don't approve of it here, but for them it's ok, our Asian relationships improve because our money is pouring into the Asian Market. We look like heroes to the Asian Governments but their workers are struggling for a livelihood. We’re forced to offer increased foreign aid to the same areas that we have bought products from. They'll need the extra aid as they have been pushed to the limits physically and emotionally, not to mention extremely underpaid, trying to fill the increase in demand for their products, in the meantime, our workers have been put out of work and businesses have closed down due to lack of sales on the domestic arena. Interest rates have gone through the roof, bankruptcies have increased markedly and foreign debt is uncontrollable. Our families are struggling to feed their kids and no foreign aid is forthcoming as we are/were classified as a thriving developed nation. At least the workers that can retain their jobs have great working conditions and our PM can tell the Chinese about our plight, in their own language. Note to Mr Rudd, historically, the Chinese haven't cared about anyone except themselves, as a Government. The people themselves are lovely though!

Extreme? Maybe a little! But this is basically what happens under Labor Governments. Now that they are Governing Australia wide, maybe the extreme end is the more realistic result! Now, when this Labor Government does F..k up, all you Uni Socialists, Tree Huggers and other Labor Supporters, please remember to tell your kids and grandkids that you helped F..k up a wonderful Country! That is if you still own your family home and investment properties, after all the land rights claims are passed unchallenged and you discover that all our Capital cities are built on sacred ground and ancient burial sites and the Government can't pay for the claims outright as, they have depleted the Futures Fund (after borrowing from our pension fund to pay for every unemployed Australian to have "high speed" Broadband, no Uni Socialists and tree huggers, it's not a new drug!), paid compo claims to the stolen generation, that you and I had nothing to do with and have ensured that the dandilion is a protected plant species and the Global Warming scare campiagn is fully funded and even though we are 75% unemployed, we are still paying the Unions to represent us (just so that they can repeat the cycle of destruction with our future generations). Mental note to self, send Christmas cards to all Labor Supporters thanking them for a Wonderful New Year! NOT!!

Edit: Jenny: You can't resign from compulsory Unionism! In the mid 80's, resign from the Union, lose your job. It was this way in the Federal Public Service and Construction Industries! I know, I did resign from the ACOA and was terminated 3 weeks later for taking up a position that a Union member could have had! No Union membership, no postion vacant!

Edit, miss schlonky: I had an economics teacher at High School and he would only issue to us the Labor Party propaganda on everything. I never had Conservative leanings until that B.tard! He also ended up being the Drug Supplier to the school students and would only pass those that bought from him. If you really want me to study economics from a..eholes like him, forget it! I don't need to go to a "Socialist Brainwashing Centre" to understand what has worked and what doesn't! I've have lived it!! You have never been an Employer obviously, Uni educated, socialist leaning people tend to be the worst employees. They don't work! No interest in it, no want to do it, they feel that they are owed a living for just being there. I have, unfortunately employed a good number of them and ended up doing all the work myself and still had to pay them. If you swear that you are a typical Uni Student, please do me a favour and DON'T ever apply for work with my business!

Answer 7

I've got a mortgage and was terrified that interest rates were going to end up at 22%.like when John Howard was treasurer back in 70's early 80's

I voted Labour , because I wanted a strong economy [ the one that Paul Keating set up in 80's & 90's ]

Kevin Rudd dosen't brown nose GW Bush




Ruddslide

Answer 8

Sadly, Australia is one BIG bed... and we will all have to lie in it!! With state govs running at $80 billion debt, how long before fed gov starts racking it up as well? And honest to God I don't see where the SA state gov has socked money into roads, health, education etc- but we have lots more of pollies helpers, quangos etc. Oh well, hang on for the ride- nothing else we can do!

Answer 9

I am apparently right wing, but labor will be good for education and health. I remember back to the Hawke days...
if you had money in a savings account, you benefited from high interest, but most people had to sell their homes as morgages got out of controll.
given the current international morgage crisis, and labors plans to be tough on industry emissions, i hope that Rudd doesn't turn Australia to ... Crudd?
Howard may have played on people's fears, but Rudd played on people's ignorance!

Answer 10

only time will tell but i think that the pasting the liberal government received at the election is testament to how unhappy aussies were with the way things were being run.