It just seems that a lot of people keep asking the same question about how Christmas can be a christian holiday celebrating the birth of Christ if that wasnt even his actual bday?
Do you really think that it is a legit argument that it isnt his exact birthday? Can you not celebrate a persons bday on a day that isnt their actual bday?
Anyone that has asked this question, yet celebrated their bday, like going out to lunch or having someone give them a present, not on their actual bday, is rather a hyppocrite, dont you think?
2007-11-27
16:05:17
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cadisneygirl
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How does it change the meaning of the holiday by changing the date? Who cares what day he was born.
Christians dont claim the date is their own, they claim the holiday known as Christmas, is theirs, and it is. It was a brand new holiday created to celebrate the birth of Christ that incorporated pagan traditions to try to get the pagans on board. Pagans NEVER celebrated a holiday known as Christmas. No holiday morphed into Christmas. Christmas was started as a brand new holiday.
If there are any similarities between kwanzaa and christmas then is kwanzaa really just christmas? This is the logic you are trying to apply when you say that just because christians incorporated pagan traditions it is the exact same holiday or some kind of evolved version of a pagan holiday. It wasnt. It was a new holiday that incorporated pagan traditions.
The date has nothing to do with the meaning.
2007-11-27
16:13:28 ·
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Ashalee
Are you addressing this to me???? Did you read the question??? I was making a point that anyone that claims christians have no business celebrating Christmas on the 25th is making a really lame and weak argument, so I dont know what you are going off on.
2007-11-27
16:16:10 ·
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The Olive Gardens near me dont offer free deserts for bdays, those cheapskates. Islands, BJs and ClaimJumper though, offer really good ones!
2007-11-27
16:20:13 ·
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ross
given the amount of times someone has asked how dare christians celebrate christmas when it wasnt his real bday, it seems to be to many
2007-11-27
16:21:18 ·
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sketch
I just didnt want people to start bashing on santa, I love that guy
2007-11-27
16:21:55 ·
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kjv
lol
when I read your answer I was like, huh, but I didnt respond
I think a few people answering misread my question.
2007-11-27
17:42:37 ·
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I respectfully think you've missed the main point of the birthday-date argument.
We're instructed to live according to the Bible. The Bible does not tell us to celebrate His birthday on ANY day. If it were a "feast" day, the birth date would have been presented in a straightforward passage with the details of how to celebrate it, just like all the OT feasts. And just like Jesus' own specific instructions on how to remember His death.
Even for those who genuinely did not know he was not born in December, but love Him, the only things worshipped at this point are money and consumer goods. That alone is a good reason to avoid the thing altogether.
As for pointing out the passages in Luke that give us the time Jesus was born (and it's obviously not December), Christians should respectfully and politely, not with condescesion, help each other out when others have overlooked something.
I overlooked these verses entirely until I was helped out. Now, reading Luke again, it's crystal clear that it's there, but given in such a quiet way that it's almost an instruction NOT to celebrate it.
2007-11-27 23:24:25
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answered by cmw 6
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I love Christmas but I am aware of it being just a day chosen to coincide with other Holidays at the time.....I enjoy the lights and the hustle and bustle,,,the music,,,the nice way people treat each other and the feeling of joy and celebration in the air...
I like Christmas movies and the whole bit. I don't celebrate at my home,,,no decorations or such but we do have a Christmas Dinner.....To be honest I do enjoy watching others celebrate with their lights and such...I don't like the idea of Santa Clause,,,but when I was little,,,I do remember how much fun it was.....
If celebrating this day as the day Jesus was born,,,gets people to thinking about him and gets them in church, if only for a night to watch the story of the birth by their kids Christmas Pageant,,,,at least they are thinking about him and something might take hold in their heart....
2007-11-27 16:28:10
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answered by dreamdress2 6
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I totally agree that the concept of "Christ's Mass" was a completely new concept introduced by Papal Rome. There's no question there. What I object to is their attempt to baptize what was previously a celebrated pagan's birthday (Tamuz) and turn it into the day to celebrate Christ's Birth. Excuse me? Yes, I justifiably object. My objections have never been about the fact that Christ was actually born in late September or early October.
2007-11-27 17:27:13
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answered by ♫DaveC♪♫ 7
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The hypocrites, knowing the truth about Christmas, find excuses to celebrate it anyways.
Ummm...hey folks, Yeshua was not an orphan............
Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
Edit next day: LOL!! I cannot believe I don't have any thumbs down on this answer!
2007-11-27 16:10:43
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answered by Anonymous
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Thank God for someone else seeing the Light. Christmas was the pagan winter solstice festivity to celebrate the sun God tamuz same date just with chirstian theme also mixed in with modern scary god like stan clause story that scares the crap out of kids to have a big fat blue eyed white man watching them in their sleep. you guys can have that nonsense I'll celebrate Channukah
edit*** I misread your argument you do not see the truth. Anyway Jesus should be celebrated everyday, but His death was way more signifigant that his birth day that is why the bible is much more clear about the death rather than the birth.He lives!!
2007-11-27 16:24:19
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answered by Anonymous
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Occasionally. But only by a few days. Like... say my birthday falls on a weekday, I may put off celebrating it in any way until say Saturday when people have time off work.
Considering that Christmas is celebrated at litterally the opposite time of year that jesus is said to be born... don't you think its idiotic to celebrate it during December?
2007-11-27 16:11:01
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answered by Anonymous
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Anyone who is following our normal calender will celebrate the birthday on wrong day. Read below and try to understand the reason -
Earth rotates on it's own axis from West to East and completes the rotation in 24 hours approximately. That’s why from Earth perspective it appears that celestial bodies are moving from East to West. Planets and Moon appear to complete one full rotation of Earth in about 24 hours.
In relation to Sun, Earth rotates in about 24 hours, which is called Mean Solar day. Whereas under a Sidereal day, Earth moves in relation to a fixed star, Earth takes 23 hours 56 minutes and 4.09 seconds. The difference is because by the time when Earth rotates once with reference to fixed star, the Sun has also moved by approximately one degree, which takes additional 4 minutes each day.
In India birthdays and other dates are calculated base upon movement of Moon in a particular Consolation of stars, which is more accurate.
2007-11-27 16:30:28
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answered by shanky_andy 5
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My birthday is Nov 23, my wife's is Nov11--so we put the two together and celebrate both at the same time on an agreed date each year that is convenient for both of us.
Who cares when Christ's birthday was or even if it has pagan roots which it seems to have as does Easter. He deserves to have his birthday celebrated because who He is and what He did for all of us. It is a joyous occasion and always should be looked as such.
2007-11-27 16:12:00
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answered by Terry L 5
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You dodge the all important question. Why is Jesus' birth celebrated on the wrong date in the first place?
That answer will tell you that 25 December has NOTHING to do with the birth of Jesus.
2007-11-27 16:09:12
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answered by Anonymous
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Adopted orphans often celebrate their birthdays on days when their newly adopted parents don't know when their real birthday is.
The day celebrated might be the day the child met the parents or the date the adoption was finalized, but in any event since they don't know the date a child was born they have to pick some date and put it on the new birth certificate.
Pastor Art
2007-11-27 16:09:28
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answered by Anonymous
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