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Kind of curious based upon some comments I read. Do you believe you are saved by Jesus or Jehovah?

To all non-JW's I know Jesus and Jehovah are the same. Just wondering what JW's say.

2007-11-27 14:20:42 · 10 answers · asked by Bible warrior 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Jesus and Jehovah are the same as in they are both God. Please stick to the question.

2007-11-27 14:27:33 · update #1

Can any JW answer the question?

2007-11-27 14:44:10 · update #2

10 answers

Sadly they do not have any assurance of salvation until after the great war of Armageddon and is they are left standing they will be saved...for a period of time, then they have to prove themselves again. No salvation through Grace like our lord promises.

2007-11-27 14:28:36 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 5

Edge, You need to really to read what the bible says.

Jehovah provided / sent his Son so that his Son could provide the ransom we need to be saved.

Since God can not die, and Jesus died, they can not be the same.

Since no one has seen God at any time, and 1000's saw Jesus they can not be the same.

If Jehovah had not provided / sent his Son, then there would be no salvation.

If Jesus had not volunteered;
If Jesus had not proved faithful;

Then there would be no salvation.

If you believe Jesus is more than an image of God, you are an unbeliever and are blinded by Satan.

2 Cor. 4:4.

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2007-11-28 11:37:22 · answer #2 · answered by TeeM 7 · 1 0

The name Jesus literally means "Jehovah is salvation."

So, Jesus' own name really just magnifies God's name. Jesus said that "God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son." In other words, Jehovah made the provision for salvation by sacrificing Jesus.

2007-11-28 11:18:27 · answer #3 · answered by keiichi 6 · 0 0

Interesting...If they say jehovah or god of the watchtower they are still dead in theirs sins and are guilty before the throne.

There is no remission of sins unless there is spilling of blood. Thank Jesus that he paid the fine for the world. By His blood we are made right IF we repent.

2007-11-27 22:35:51 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 4 3

If YOU READ THE BIBLE U WILL SEE THAT IS NOT WHAT JW'S THINK OR SAY IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS n THE BIBLE IS Jehovah's word n u will see that when Jesus wan here ,he praye to his father God alot .Ofcourse he wasnt talking to himself

2007-11-27 22:42:36 · answer #5 · answered by bril 3 · 2 3

how can you stick whit the question when you dont even understand that jesus and jehovah aren't the same?

2007-11-27 22:29:27 · answer #6 · answered by Liz cali nine 2 · 2 3

it is not what jw's say, but what the bible say,, jehovah's witnesses teach what is fact and what is in the Bible not on their human thoughts....

2007-11-27 23:40:21 · answer #7 · answered by jayc 2 · 2 2

jesus and jehovah are not the same, the father is not the same as the son.

2007-11-27 22:26:10 · answer #8 · answered by scorpio69 3 · 1 6

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20011115/article_02.htm

2007-11-27 22:27:28 · answer #9 · answered by spiCy crys 3 · 2 3

Rev 7:10 – . 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

We owe our salvation to God, Jehovah, the Father, (who is seated on the throne & who is IN heaven) and to his Son, Jesus, the Lamb and Son of God(who was standing & whose name UNDER heaven that has been given among men for us to get saved– Rev 5:6, Acts 4:12) .

Jehovah saves. He is the only main source of salvation.
Isa 43:11 states “I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”

Jehovah then gave his Son a NAME by which we get saved(Acts 4:12) so Jesus also saves.

Acts 4:12 states
12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another NAME UNDER HEAVEN that has been GIVEN among men by which we must get SAVED.

So the only NAME that was GIVEN UNDER HEAVEN in which men can get saved is the God sent Son,AND HIS name is, JESUS. (John 3;16). No other creation has a name or authority that can save us, only Jesus.


Jehovah God is the one saving IN THE HEAVENS.

Psalm 20:6
6 Now I do know that Jehovah certainly saves his anointed one.
He answers him from his holy heavens
With the saving mighty acts of his right hand.

Jehovah God is the one who sent saviors to earth before to save people.
Neh 9:27 –
27 For this you gave them into the hand of their adversaries, who kept causing them distress; but in the time of their distress they would cry out to you, and you yourself would hear from the very heavens; and in accord with your abundant mercy you would give them saviors who would save them out of the hand of their adversaries.

Finally, Jehovah, The Father, sent his only begotten Son to save humanity.
16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life – John 3:16

That’s why


Jesus said in John 14:1 – “Exercise faith in God, exercise faith ALSO in me”

John 17:3 - 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ


Rev 7:10 – . 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

10 Salvation is a gift from God, but it does not come automatically. (Romans 6:23) There are certain basic conditions that each individual must meet to qualify for that gift. Jesus said: “God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.” And the apostle John added: “He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; he that disobeys the Son will not see life.” (John 3:16, 36) Clearly, God requires faith and obedience from each individual who hopes to obtain everlasting salvation. Each one must make the decision to accept the ransom and to follow in Jesus’ footsteps.

Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will get saved.” (Acts 16:31)
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.’”—John 17:3.
We also have to do works that befit repentance.”—Matthew 3:8; Acts 3:19.
Faith without works is dead.”—James 1:22; 2:19, 26.

You can loose salvation if you don’t take care of that gift.
“I desire to remind you . . . that Jehovah, although he SAVED a people [the Israelites] out of the land of Egypt, afterwards DESTROYED those not showing faith.”—Jude 5.

Every branch in me not bearing fruit [God] takes away . . . If anyone does not remain in union with me, he is cast out as a branch and is dried up; and men gather those branches up and pitch them into the fire and they are burned.” (John 15:2, 6; Hebrews 6:4-6) Those losing faith in Jesus also lose everlasting life.

We must exercise faith in the Chief Agent of salvation, Jesus Christ, and do God’s will the rest of our lives. (John 3:16; Titus 2:14)

“he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.”—Matthew 24:13.





Jesus is not Jehovah.

Jesus said at John 20:17 “‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’” Notice Jesus has a God, whom he called “My God” and who is also his Father.


Who is Jesus’ Father?
Isa 63:16 - 16 For you are our Father; although Abraham himself may not have known us and Israel himself may not recognize us, you, O Jehovah, are our Father.

The Bible also doesn’t say “Jesus is Jehovah”. You cannot find that in the Bible. But what we can find are these.


At Luk23:46 it states 46 And Jesus called with a loud voice and said: “Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” This was quoted from Psalms 31:5. So you can tell that Jesus called to his Father when he was about to die. “Into your hand I entrust my spirit.” The text continues “You have redeemed me, O Jehovah the God of truth.”

Is God composed of THREE PERSONS?

Gen 17:1 states “, then Jehovah appeared to A´bram and said to him: “I am God Almighty”

Do you use the phrase “I am” for THREE persons or you only use it for ONE Person?
If God is composed of THREE persons, God should have said “WE ARE God” but you cannot find that it the Bible.

You never use the phrase “I am” for THREE Persons. I am is only used for one person.

JESUS said to the Father also in John 17:3, that the Father is the “ONLY True God”, this means there is one and only one person who is God, the Father. and this is confirmed in 1 Cor 8:5 where is states “6 there is actually to us one God the FATHER”.Notice the Father only. Notice also in John 17:3 Jesus excluded himself as the only true God. Instead of saying “We are the only true God” JESUS said “YOU (referring to the Father), and not US” as the only true God. Now are you against Jesus?

Now, if the Son is Jehovah, the Father is Jehovah and the holy spirit is Jehovah according to the Trinity doctrine, then these THREE PERSONS, are THREE Jehovah.

But the Bible says in Deut 6:4 Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah.

Notice in Deut 6:4 it used “IS” and only ONE person is involved. If there are three Jehovah then it should have used ARE for THREE persons.

There is ONLY ONE JEHOVAH, who is God Almighty.

2007-11-28 15:14:56 · answer #10 · answered by trustdell1 3 · 1 0

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