Can I get some Jewish people to comment on this Torah reading? Midrash, please!?

Question

"All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the Passover to YHWH, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourns among you."

Shemot/Exodus 12:46-49



"Ye shall have one manner of law , as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country:

for I Am YHWH your Elohim."

Vayikra/Leviticus 24:22


Rabbinical Judaism wants to "own" Torah and put God in a box, they are making a golden calf unto themselves from which to enslave their followers and prevent many souls from entering into the Malchut Elohim. The fact of the matter is that most Jews will not have anything to do with Torah or Religion because of how the Rabbis manipulate people with their religious shtick.

Why do Jewish keep Torah just for themselves?

thanks

Answer 1

Because the Torah was given to the people of Israel.
Funny you're not asking why the Muslims keep the Quran all to themselves or the Christians keep the New testamet all to themselves.
It's OUR holy book, if anyone else wants to follow it, then convert. Simple as that. Same as with any other faith.
I wonder why you're singling Judaism out impying that it's selfish but you have no problem with other faiths keeping their holy books to themselves as well?

Answer 2

Why do people make moronic statements with zero facts?

The quotes from Shemot and Vayokra are referring to converts, stating that a convert has to keep all the laws and is considered a full part of the community in every instance, including the Pesach sacrifice even though they are not connected physically to those redeemed from Egypt. They have to keep it since they are spiritually connected to the entirety of the nation, as Jewish as anyone else, and thus should remember the exodux that led to the receiving of the Torah. The bit about circumcision is to emphasise that this law only applies to converts who have completed the process (a male convert is not considered converted until they have been circumcised).

And the Rabbis do not keep the Tprah to themselves- it is read every monday, thursday and Shabbos in shul to people can hear and learn it (and this has been the custom since the time of Ezar around 400 BCE). The Talmud is kept on the shelves of every Orthodox shul i have ever visited, avaialble for anyone to pick up and read. For those unable to read and understand the hebrew and aramaic, there are english traslations. The Shuchan Aruch, the codification and summary of Jewish law has been translated as has the Mishnah Berurah, a 20th century commentary on the Shulchan Aruch which shows how the laws are applied to modern issues.

Nothing is hidden, everything is open and the Rabbis manipulate nobody- no one is forced to do anything, there is no coercion and everyone is not only able to, but ENCOURAGED to study and ask questions.

Answer 3

Oh, knock it off. Rabbinical Judaism doesn't exist. When Christian pastors and ministers make commentaries on what's in the new testament, do you call it "Minister Christianity"??

Nor do Rabbis want to "own" Torah and put God in a box. Jews own Torah, all Jews, not just the Rabbis, and no Rabbi would ever think that he or his collective profession "owns" the Torah. Just stop it. You're trying to poison people against the Jews, and everything you wrote is a total lie.

The Torah is the handbook for the Jews. It is not the handbook for the non-Jews. The non-Jews, every one of them, was offered the Torah FIRST before the Jews, and they all turned it down after asking what was in it, and learned that there were so many laws to follow. So don't complain. You had your chance and refused it.

It was then given to the Jews by God, who accepted it without even asking what was in it, as the non-Jews hadn't done.

However, the Torah also contains the paths for RIGHTEOUS Gentiles (that would be you, if you so decide) to follow by which they merit their place in the World To Come, and that is by following the 7 Noahide Laws found there. They are:

1. Do not murder
2. Do not steal
3. Do not commit adultery
4. Do not curse God
5. Do not commit idolatry
6. Do not tear the limbs from a living animal to eat (prohibition on cruelty to animals)
7. Do make courts of law to uphold these laws to create a fair and just society for all peoples.

That is your path, as a non-Jew, by which you will merit your place in the World To Come, according to what God gave on Mt. Sinai.

http://www.noahide.org

Do you wish that teachers should learn and follow the books meant for surgeons? Or that farmers should learn and follow the books meant for teachers?

The Torah is the book of instruction for the Jews. The Jews are, as God gave, a nation of Priests. This is why the Jews have a book that teaches them how to perform this function, called the Torah. This is why non-Jews do not have the Torah, because they are not a nation of priests. Non-Jews have their OWN paths to merit a place in the World To Come, as already mentioned, the 7 Noahide Laws as God gave to them on Mt. Sinai.

Despite your use of such words as "Malchut Elohim" and "shtick", and "midrash" you are not fooling anyone into believing you are Jewish.

Any Jew who reads what you wrote would know right off the bat by what you wrote that you aren't a Jew.

You're more than likely a member of some deceitful Messianic Jewish movement which, by the way, was begun by BAPTISTS as a means to fool Jews into converting to Christianity. They just LOVE to use all the Jewish words they can, dress up in Jewish drag, and get rid of all the crosses and other Jesus type stuff outwardly in their churches, and even change Jesus's name to "Yeshua" in order to sound more Jewish.

This movement has spent over 12 million dollars in the past decade on sneaky and deceitful programs to target Jews specifically, for conversion.

And the "fact of the matter" as you so ignorantly stated, that "most Jews will not have anything to do with Torah or religion because of how the Rabbis manipulate people" is one of the most dishonest, manipulative statements I've seen coming from a messie's mouth (or keyboard) in a long time. This is completely false, and as usual, is meant to disparage Jews and Rabbis without cause.

Answer 4

I have no idea what you're asking. The Torah is for Jews; Christians have their "New Testament"; Muslims have the Quran. I don't see the problem. And how do you conclude that Rabbinical Judaism wants to own Torah? Putting G-d in a box?? Where does that come from?

Oh, and you're juxtaposing two passages with totally different contexts. The second one--about having one law--specifically relates to the laws immediately above it, in Lev. 24:14-21. This has nothing to do with what's in Shemot.

Answer 5

Stuff and nonsense.

We don't "keep Torah just for [our]selves". Anyone who wants to, can convert to Judaism, and then "come near and keep it", as the text says. But the hurdles are high, the entrance requirements are difficult, and "it's hard to be a Jew".

Nobody owns Torah, it's probably more correct to say that Jews belong to Torah rather than the other way 'round.
"It is a Tree of Life to those who hold fast to it. Its ways are ways of pleasantness and all its paths are peace."

But that has to be earned, by adherence to the Law, both the written Law (Torah) and the oral, living Law (Halacha).

BTW, the phrasing of your question suggests that you aren't really open to answers; from the sound of it, your mind is already made up.

Answer 6

That's not true at all, why would you say that? Just because you take a few verses out of context about allowing strangers to join in certain things (they have to circumcise themselves first) you say that Rabbinical Judaism is making a golden calf? How mean and untrue.

Answer 7

Malkus-------I don't know what to call you but you are portraying an unwise arrogance, and it is one that borders on a rebelious revolution against people incharge, these demonstration of outbursts as you potray has already been placed in record for us to look for and remember, such teachings are found to be taught by a man called Korach which tried to lead a rebellion against Moishe [Moses] our first teacher of holy scriptures, and the earth opened up it's mouth and swallowed Korach and those who were lead by his rebellion, my recomendation to you is that you become more aware of where your feet are treading.

Answer 8

Because when ever the Jews speak up or try to share their belief, they get ridiculed or persecuted. They have had enough persecution and now prefer to keep to their selves.

Answer 9

Well the first one speaks of the circumcision that started with Abraham and were a sign of the covenent, and the passover and the fest of the unlevered bread, was a representation of the mesiah to come.

Answer 10

Dude learn English, then ask your question