So let's say God takes a look at the future and sees that you will eat an apple tomorrow. It's laid out in front of him. He sees you eating it. When tomorrow comes, can you choose to avoid eating an apple all day? The answer has to be no, since God knew you WOULD eat one. You HAVE to eat one. If you don't, that means God was wrong. That means you have no free will.
Don't say God knew you will choose to avoid eating it anyway because he didn't. He knew you WOULD eat it.
2007-11-27 02:53:39 · 6 answers · asked by Meat Bot 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
capital: I didn't say he made you eat it. I said you have no free will because he knows you will do it. You cannot choose not to eat it. If you have free will, then you must be able to choose not to eat it. But you can't do that, so you don't have free will.
2007-11-27 03:10:23 · update #1
Bobby Jim: So you must agree with me then?
2007-11-27 03:11:09 · update #2
I agree with your position.
2007-11-27 06:31:31 · answer #1 · answered by CresentMoon 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
You would loose free will if God made you eat the apple. Just because He sees you eating it does not mean He is making you eat it.
Nice try.
EDIT:
Ok, since you won't listen to the easy answer, here's a "logical" one for you... It breaks down fairly easily, but stay with me for a second, it does offer an explaination. It would be like recording a football game to watch later. Before you get to see it, you find out the result. You still decide to watch it, knowing the outcome. Does that mean the players lost their free will? When dealing with an eternal being like God, yesterday and tomorrow are the same (i.e. He's watching our lives like they are yesterday's football games). You cannot apply a timeline to Him for exists outside of time. His omniscience does not remove your free will. You still had the choice to eat an apple or not. The fact that you ultimately did is irrelevant, the choice was still there. To stick with the recorded game analogy - to remove your free will would be like me knowling the Redskins lost on Sunday, but then stepping in so that on Monday, Campbell didn't throw that last interception.
2007-11-27 11:02:58 · answer #2 · answered by capitalctu 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
"Time" is a physical dimension of a physical Earth.
Since God does not live on our plain of reality, then it is safe to say that God sees past, present, and future all at once.
He has no beginning, and has no end. Eternity into the future, as well as in the past.
2007-11-27 10:59:56 · answer #3 · answered by Bobby Jim 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God knows our life from end to begining, he does not check into the future.
2007-11-27 11:08:06 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Ah... the good old paradox of free will vs. god's omniscients. How can god be all knowing if you have free will?
2007-11-27 10:57:18 · answer #5 · answered by Pitchy 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
That's silly~what He saw was what YOU chose to do, He didn't make you do it~~~~~
Besides, if you are referring to Adam and Eve it didn't say it was an apple =)
2007-11-27 11:02:00 · answer #6 · answered by sego lily 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋