To judge others and put takfir to other muslim?
coz I find so many users who claim they follow sunna, memorize whole Quran and they say to another Muslim that they are hypocrites, kafir, jews pretend to be Muslims.
Just wondering....
can someone show me a hadith that tells us Rasulullah did it in past?
thanks
2007-11-27 02:46:57 · 19 answers · asked by marhama 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Holidays ➔ Ramadan
friend...
I am sorry about thumbs down stalker..
that wasn't me! :(
2007-11-27 03:48:33 · update #1
Jenn, I read Bukhari Hadith also,
but I don't find a hadith that you should put takfir to others.
2007-11-27 04:53:30 · update #2
Salam Aleykum sister
This is a something I have exactly been wondering.....How some (I am sorry to see) muslims accuse others ....and worse.....curse others... who they feel are not Muslims....
I should say that there is one Almighty God and ONLY HE has the right to judge who is muslim and who is not...we are normal human beings...we can make mistakes and also be correct...But God is NEVER Wrong....and what we think does not matter to the truth which will always remain....
Some muslims (VERY SORRY TO SAY THAT, MAY GOD FORGIVE ME) think that they have the right to 'judge' others, that they can call anyone a kafir if they want...and for that they think they can twist God's laws to curse others....
I believe people need to reconsider this, and also realize that this is a sin. I think it would be stout hypocrisy to consider that while one may Memorize the Quran and yet not follow it....Even if they did study Islam as they claim to, why dont they follow it?
Remember that cursing/namecalling/hypocrisy/swearing is haram...
May God almighty forgive the misguided muslims, and guide the rest of us...
edit:
@ croweye,
I think you should be ashamed of yourself...I am 17 and atleast I could think for myself...I can think what can make this world a better place...Peace from Islam...
Among us I believe you are the one acting "under 17"
2007-11-27 04:17:40 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 0⤋
No Marhama. Infact, there is a Hadith which says if you call a muslim a kafir then one of you are. So refrain from calling others kafirs, lest God views you as the Kafir.
Enough with this judging. It is repulsive. I am sorry to see people have no life except to go and judge others. Let them do go do something useful
2007-11-27 14:03:33 · answer #2 · answered by swd 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
We are no one to judge them. We have our Quran, we have ahadith and we know what Islam is. But there are def. people whom I call So called Muslims and I call them this because of their actions.. for example muslim terrorists and actors or actresses, singers. But still we do not know whats there in their hearts. how regular they are at their prayers and paying zakat. They might be ignoring the basic tenets of Islam but are good at other acts. So its Allah the best to judge his human being. We, and I myself should avoid it. Pointing out one particular person is not good, pointing out the ACTIONS of such people is fine. Because if we just shut our lips then who will differentiate between what is right and what is wrong, and people would not know more about the Islam and no references would be given, no research on Islamic studies would be done. So sometimes its necessary to judge the actions. And teach them by giving them the reference.
Rest Allah knows the best~!
2007-11-27 12:03:53 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 0⤋
no it is not a sunnah... the prophet pbuh knew the hypocrites at his time but didn't mention them to anyone except from one person...
but there are certain things you can do which make you a kafir...
e.g associating partners with allah... going to a magician or a fortune teller...
i mean you can't call someone who does'nt accept the quran and mocks the sunnah of the prophet pbuh a muslim can you!!??
2007-11-27 21:04:16 · answer #4 · answered by motaz h 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
95 % of people answering the question are under the age of 17 years old. They hardly know anything about their religion or people who have converted to Islam, the next day they think they are scholars.. What makes you a Muslim if you are not praying in Arabic? If your not reading the Quran in Arabic? If your not following the five pillars of Islam? If you do not know your religion?
Answering Questions about Islam without knowledge of Islam is Kafir.. I can see the most of the people here answer questions without knowledge especially you...
You are answering questions which have nothing to do with the Sunnah, the companions or anything any scholar has said in ISlam.? What does that make you? A Muslim? No, your not a Muslim?
Mahrama the joke is you ask a question..Is it a sunnah? Yesterday you said you do not know what is the sunnah.....now your trying to tell people what the sunnah is? This is being a hypocrite and kafir...............................
And of course you will cry about someone who points this out to you.
If your a Muslim you would try to learn about Islam..on your own not what people here are telling you......
Remember your email to me on my other ID saying that you have wrong answers but you do not want people to know you know nothing about Islam because your afraid you will not be liked? I want you to swear to Allah you did not..
starwhit... when your talking about this hadeeth.. This is talking about we should not say kafir to those who follow the Quran and Sunna, it does not mean that if someone curses Islam then we should sit back and let them...part of faith is to stand up and defend Islam against those who insult it..
now adays Muslims are Muslim only by name or passport... This does not make them Muslims..
2007-11-27 14:33:30 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
I do not know if your speaking about me or what. I will tell you there are many hadiths which state the sunnah saying things which makes someone a disbeliever..Like cutting the necks of one another etc.. Yes, a Muslim would have the right to call another Muslim who left Islam a Kaffir....There are also hadiths which speak about people who are hypocrites who pretend to be Muslim but they were Jews. I am not recalling the number of the hadith off hand but it says something like they are good infront of Muslims but behind the back they laugh and say that Muslims are bad and ignorant..
@ mimi2 her hadith she said is correct there is a hadith which says something like this
Bukhari, Vol8 book 73 hadith 125a
"Allah's Apostle said,"If a man says to his brother, O Kafir! Then surely one of them is such."
This does not mean it is haraam to call a Muslim a Kafir what it means is it is either true the brother is a Kafir or if it is not true the brother who said his brother is a Kafir is the Kafir.....
You should download Bukhari and Muslim and look at hadiths for yourself and not depend on others.. This way you will have them ...it will help you learn your deen..
it is funny I am getting thumbs down stating something that is fact...
Before you said you did not know about Sunnah now your saying you read all the books from Bukhari, wow thats great I have yet to accomplish reading all of them.. Go back and read them and you will see what I Am talking about...I just gave you one....I will not agree with you something I am sure of you have to find out the truth on your own..
If you do not know if your sunni or a shiia how do you know the hadiths. I do not know why your posting a question that you think your so sure of..
Like Prophet Mohammed(saw) said if we call someone a kaffir one or the other is the kaffir.. This means if you are calling a muslim kaffir and they turn out not to be one then your the kaffir for calling that person a kaffir.. This does not mean if someone has reverted from Islam with acts that we can not call them a kaffir...
look up about the hadiths of those who follow the stars Horoscopes or astrologers..etc
"Not doing 5 pilars or doing forbidden things in Islam won't make someone become out of Islam, they are still Muslim, but have sins." is what you wrote in the question..
Sister do you know what the Shahada is? It is the first pillar of Islam and the most important..If someone says they do not believe in the Shahada then they are a kaffir!!!
2007-11-27 12:22:52 · answer #6 · answered by je 6 · 6⤊ 0⤋
we have all been posting similar questions on this topic for the past few days..
I think the people who are doing those attocities are not going to open their minds or change their ways no matter what we say. In their point of view, we're not Muslims if we dont follow their belief system exactly. Of course we should all pray for them and hope they are guided...
thanks for the question ^_^
2007-11-27 19:41:51 · answer #7 · answered by 412envy 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
salamu calaykum>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
i know how u feel sometime i get so mad to my fellow muslims and say they're not a muslim and that they're a christian. but back to ur question NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's not alloweed in islam and there is no HADITHS that allow that. i'm sorry but i think u should stay away from false islamic sites.
2007-11-27 18:10:40 · answer #8 · answered by muslim gurl 1 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, instead our Holy Prophet (saww) treated every one with love and humbleness. this is how the Islam spread in the early days (later it was the sward in the era of the caliphates and kings).
Our Holy Prophet (saww) said; "if u find 2 Muslims at altercation solve the matter between them."
2007-11-27 16:38:12 · answer #9 · answered by Papilio 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No it is not Sunna and they commited a sin when they called me Jewish and sent me insulting emails that animals feel shy to send to insects.
Man Kaffara Musliman Fahuwa Akfar
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which means that if you call a Muslim kafir you are a worse kafir.
Wassalam
2007-11-27 11:01:24 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 13⤊ 0⤋