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US satellite figures shows temperatures having fallen since 1998, declining in 2007 to a 1983 level - not to mention the newly revised figures for US surface temperatures showing that the 1930s had four of the 10 warmest years of the past century, with the hottest year of all being not 1998, as was previously claimed, but 1934.

2007-11-27 00:23:52 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Environment Global Warming

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Yes the satellite data shows atmospheric temperatures have been falling. Without the contaminated global surface temperature record the believers would have very little support for their theory.

Look at the bars, not the smoothed line, smoothing of a time series is a very bad thing, that shows a lack of scientific understanding of climate/weather coupling. You will notice the surface and the troposphere show different trends over the last decade. The troposphere should be warming faster than the surface because of all the dreaded man made CO2 capturing heat. It is not, the cooling is because of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation and or multi-decadal decline in TSI.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/2006/ann/msu2006-pg.gif

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2007-11-27 01:01:17 · answer #1 · answered by Tomcat 5 · 6 1

I think you're looking at data provided by the skeptics and not the real, factual data.

The HADCrut3 temperature record shows 1998 as being the hottest year on record, the next hottest are, in order: 2005, 2003, 2002, 2004, 2007, 2006, 2001, 1997, 1999.

The GISTemp temperature record (the most widely used one) has the ten hottest years on record as: 2005, 2007, 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2004, 2001, 1990, 1995.

The average of the different temperature records has this is the ten warmest years on record: 1998, 2005, 2007, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2004, 2001, 1997, 1999.

No matter which temperature record you use the current temperatures are considerably higher than they were in 1983.

Here's a list of the hottest years on record:
http://profend.com/gtr/tables/warmyearspage.html

Here's a list of the temperatures each month, season and year since 1850: http://profend.com/gtr/tables/tempavepage.html and here's the same info expressed as a graph http://profend.com/gtr/graphs/tempgraphave.html

Here's the graph showing the annual, 5, 10 and 30 year means http://profend.com/gtr/graphs/meangraphave.html

You'll see that no matter how the data are presented the underlying trend is the same - one of continually warming temperatures.

I think the data you may be referring to are relating to just the 48 contigeous states of the US, this is a small fraction of the global temperature record but is often chosen by skeptics as evidence that global warming has stopped; unfortunately it's only a small part of a much greater picture.

2007-11-27 08:46:41 · answer #2 · answered by Trevor 7 · 3 6

Source please!

Just guessing, the statement about the '30s is probably correct but haven't seen the data. But your statement does not support "Is global warming a scam?"

Tomcat - you're right - I don't understand! Man does not live in the troposphere, seems like the surface temperatures are more important to living conditions. But that's just me, a non-scientist. Explain it to me.

2007-11-27 12:05:01 · answer #3 · answered by Bad M 4 · 1 1

Global warming is a natural cycle in the earth. We have used that term to highlight a bad event happening with us adding to the CO2 production which is speeding up temperature levels. People are forgetting this. back when the US was first formed there was a year that was known as the year without a summer. this was caused by a volcanic eruption in asia the year prior because the ash blocked the sun and cooled the earth. its all about balance. some years/decades it'll be warmer and others will be cooler. remember Balance!!

2007-11-27 08:35:45 · answer #4 · answered by todd376 2 · 1 3

According to the MSU satellite data, temperatures have sharply increased since 1998.

http://data.co2science.org/tmp/071127110018.gif

So, I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but it certainly isn't from looking at the data.

2007-11-27 12:20:04 · answer #5 · answered by SomeGuy 6 · 0 2

No data is acceptable unless it agrees with our theory.....
Pro gw scientists can't possibly be wrong......
Con gw science is agenda driven but pro gw science is not......
As answerers like Jonathan belittle your data realize that
to question the believers is to blashpheme the new religion .

2007-11-27 09:57:41 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Yes it is a scam. Well it is a natural cycle at least.

2007-11-27 13:13:52 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

What data are you referring to. You have to stop reading goat droppings. They are only good for three minutes and they smell awful.

2007-11-27 12:06:09 · answer #8 · answered by sSuper critic 2 · 2 1

and do you have the data or at least a pear reviewed study to back up your claims.

there have been thousands agreeing with the scientific consensus i would just like to see where you are getting your info from because i have never seen a study rebuking the current scientific consensus.

2007-11-27 08:34:24 · answer #9 · answered by Gengi 5 · 2 3

And... just l WHERE did you get that supposed FACT? Was it one of the debunking sites run by the oil companies, the coal companies, the automobile manufactureres or the other vested interests?

Why don't you mention the AUTHORITIVE web sites... like the ones run by N.O.A.A. or N.C.A.R.... instread of those sites run by lobbying firms who want to make simple minded people believe that global warming is not real... it only works on AmeriKans because they are functional illiterates and not too bright... the rest of the world and 98 PERCENT of the world's scientists KNOW BETTER

Where ever you got your 'facts'... THEY ARE WRONG and YOU are WRONG.

2007-11-27 08:33:08 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 7

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