If sexual assult and rape is caused by men having sexual urges due to women wearing provocative clothing...?

Question

...then why do women who dress conservatively, even nuns or Muslim women, get assaulted and raped?

This would seem to suggest rape isn't just a matter of being tempted by tight clothing and bare flesh...

Do NOT...I repeat...do NOT give me cut and paste answers...

For some reason, this is not posting to the main board. Hmmmm

I'm not sure what did it - JMS's star or my added details but finally it magically decided to post on the main board 20 minutes after I posted it >:(

I am not saying that dressing a certain way won't attract negative attention...it will. I'm just saying sex appeal and provocativeness have little if anything to do with rape...

Last Ent Wife: Your stats, especially the last, are very chilling.

Answer 1

Rapists look for two criteria when choosing a victim...

Availability and Vulnerability. (which makes really young children and elderly women frequent victims.)

Rape is a violent crime that uses sex as the WEAPON. The intent is not to have normal coitus but to dominate, control and humiliate.

Many rapists cannot achieve erection during the attack, which explains the need to use an object.

Most rapists have a sexual partner, such as a girlfriend or a wife.

Sexism plays a major role in rape as women are seen as weak, inferior and sex "objects." (Referred to as the objectification of women, common in pornography)

Rape involves forcible penetration. (Meaning women cannot "rape" men, unless they use an object to forcibly penetrate the male, which has it's own definition, sodomy)

Peace.

EDIT: Are people who are robbed flaunting their wealth? Did they secretly want to be robbed? Why were they on that particular street corner? Why were they dressing in a manner so flagrantly displaying their wealth? You get the picture.

Adolescent and post-adolescent males, ages 14-24, are the dominant age of rapists.

Answer 2

Nearly every rape is not considered to be a "violent" rape. Meaning that the suspect wasn't some stranger who attacked, overpowered, and raped the victim, but the victim and the suspect were friends or acquaintances. One said it was rape. The other said "What?!?" In short, people still believe that women are the ones who make the decision to have sex - not the men. The general idea is that the man would have sex with anyone who was willing (not saying that I agree, but I think you'd be lying to yourself if you didn't agree most people this this way). If a women has sex with a lot of men, then she probably would be willing to have sex with the guy she's claiming to rape her. If she never has sex with anyone, she probably wouldn't have been. Establishing the alleged victim as a woman with questionable morals will make the man's story much more believable. In the he said, she said situations, there must be credibility established on BOTH sides (not just the females). The problem with your point of view is that you are going in there assuming the man is guilty, and that the woman was raped. The law is "innocent until proven guilty." Look at what you typed: "So what? If a girl is a virgin, being raped is much more awful and the rapist deserves to be punished more so than if the girl has had sex before?! Or if you don't dress like a nun, then you must've been leading the guy on and sh*t?! Or if a girl gets drunk, she's to blame for her own rape?! No wonder rape is the most under reported crime! I wouldn't report a rape if I new I would be made to look like a horrible disgusting sl*t for it." Think about that attitude - You're implying that the woman was indeed raped, which may or may not be the case. That is not how the courts are "supposed" to work. Being raped is awful no matter who you are or what your past was. However, establishing the credibility of your client, and the lackthereof of the defendent is going to go a long way. Who would you believe more? An innocent virgin saying some jerk with a much more promiscuous past raped her? Or some woman who's slept with dozens of men saying that this one "took advantage" of her? The virgin is simply much more believable.

Answer 3

I have a difficult time believing 33% of college males would "rape" an 80 year old woman, a nun, or children. Rapists choose their victims based on availability and vulnerability, not sexual frustration.

Here are some well documented and reliable stats...

Answer 4

Rape and sexual assault is a crime of power not sexual urges.. The assailant is looking for power by making someone else submit to them...

Provocative clothing is not a factor in who does and does not get assaulted.. Rape is a crime of opportunity, an assailants are looking for someone not paying attention, someone distracted and someone in an area close to a secluded spot... Rapists are not looking for the woman with a short skirt or a low cut top, they are looking for an easy target who they can grab quickly and get out of sight with..

Answer 5

Rape is not to do with sex - it is all about power.

Also if the hypothesis "Sexual assault and rape is caused by men having sexual urges due to women wearing provocative clothing" then you can say that Robbery is caused by people having too much money.

Added note:
I think that 400 lashes for being with a person who is not a relative (after she was raped by a gang) is horrific. It stems from the 'She deserved it' mentality.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=496720&in_page_id=1811

Answer 6

It has been scientifically documented for a long time now that rape is a crime of violence, not a crime of passion. Rapists don't have sexual urges in the traditionally sense - they have an urge to dominate, abuse, hurt, or humiliate someone. Sex is merely the vehicle by which they assault a person.

Answer 7

I picked it up from the main board.

Okay here goes.
1) Men are visual creatures. They are stimulated by what they SEE. (as opposed to women, who are auditory)

2) men are continually bombarded by sexual stimulating images
A) television and movies
B) SOME women dressing provocatively
C) Every other billboard on the highway

3) Men get sexual frustrated and act out their frustrations on whatever is in front of them at the time, whether or not she is dressed sexy or not.

4) we are told by the media and movies that sex is a commodity, something to be bought and sold (NOT necessarily for money). If you turn something into a commodity, it will get ABUSED.

A college survey was conducted in 1993 that surveyed graduating college males. They were asked the question "If you could rape a woman and get away with it (No consequences at all) would you do it?



33% said yes they would. It's not always about "dominance."

EDIT -
Nods, I used to work in rape prevention and rape counseling in college. Oh and let me make it clear to everyone - a woman walking down the street NAKED doesn't deserve to be raped. No one deserves to be raped. I do think we need to be more attention to how we present ourselves and what image we are projected. Half the rape prevention class I helped teach was about not being in the wrong place at the wrong time (like drunk at a party, walking down a dark alley, etc).

MORE EDITS - Universal Pants - that's not what I said. Rape is about opportunity and if the guy thinks he won't get caught, he's more willing to do it.

Answer 8

These people are sick, there's no reasoning behind their activity, they're just sick.

There is something mentally wrong with them that tells them that they need dominance over a person in order to have control and this is how they get that dominance.

Answer 9

Well if you are playing the devil's advocate here for the "sexy" way of clothing, you have to consider this example :
Let's we have a rapist and two women, one is conservatively clothed and the other is wearing almost nothing, who do you think will get the beating??
saying that it doesn't mean that women are responsible for being attacked, they just happen to cross a sick minded guy who sometimes his ugly side get triggered by some flashy clothes. that's all.

Answer 10

Some men are pigs but rape isn't about sex it's about power.