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I know that gays can't recieve communion at mass. I bet the church will accept tithings!

2007-11-26 19:43:55 · 17 answers · asked by stinky 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I am a Recovering Catholic. I have seen this happen quite a bit during mass. They use guilt and fear to make people feel bad about themselves and that is why I left.

2007-11-26 21:17:44 · update #1

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Donations are gifts willingly given. It is only polite to accept donations from anyone. Wouldn't it be worse if the Catholic Church only accepts donations from certain groups of people? That would be a sign of discrimination against them.

The Catholic Church does accept gays, as people. However it states that 'gay acts' are not right. I know that some priests do help such people through their times of confusion and difficulty. In fact books have been published to help catholic/chirstian homosexuals, such as 'From queer to eternity: spirituality in the lives of lesbian, gay, and bisexual people'-Sweasey, Peter. One chapter in here is entitled 'Love your Neighbour as Yourself: Sexual ethics', and some others, 'Suffering and healing' as well as 'Morality'.

Books like the above are there to help homosexuals understand themselves, and clear any confusion they might have with regards to how their sexual orientation ties in with their religion.

Gays CAN receive communion at mass. God does not turn them away because of their sexual orientation.

If anyone of you wants to criticise the Catholic Church, think again. Do your own bit of research and readings. It is true that the Catholic Church did not have a clean history, but just remember this: nothing is perfect. Nobody is perfect, and no body of people is perfect. The Catholic church has a rich history.

It's like a family.. in a family when someone does something wrong, or if anything goes wrong, they patch things up, forgive each other and forgive themselves, knowing that God forgives them too. They will ultimately stick by the same value system they always had from the start.

The Catholic church holds certain values, morals and beliefs. It believes there is an all-forgiving, and all-accepting God out there.

For all those who think the Catholilc church is corrupt, think about it as a family which isn't perfect, just like how everyone else isn't. It makes mistakes like everyone does.

God has forgiven it. Can't you too?

2007-11-28 01:08:06 · answer #1 · answered by Conomo 3 · 1 0

HI. Who told you gays can't receive Communion? Being gay is not a sin,it is given to you by God. Non-Catholic Christians as usual are telling lies .When will they do some research before attacking the Catholic Church.Most of the money received is given to overseas aid funds,missionaries, the poor and other charitable works.


EDIT....ksama.. What proof do you have that the Catholic Church ..is "corrupt and misguided"? Any Priest who has committed a sexual crime will be punished by God unless he repents. This has nothing to do with the Priests ordained powers.He can still forgive sins as the mediator for Christ.And say Mass as he represents Christ.We are all sinners,even Priests.


EDIT.......".One cannot truly believe,be a Christian,if he does not respect other religions as well. You do not believe in God if you make fun of other religions" Spoken by the Virgin Mary at one of her apparitions.

2007-11-26 20:48:54 · answer #2 · answered by ROBERT P 7 · 1 0

It is not up to the Church to decide who does or does not receive communion, unless they are a grave public sinner or they have been excommunicated and that fact is known to the priest. I am gay. I receive communion all the time because it is part of the practice of my faith. Donating time, treasure, and talent are also part of the practice of my faith. My money is not stamped with "donated by a Queer" so they really don't know that I donated it. It doesn't matter anyway. It is an offering to God, not to the Church.

I too loathe a lot of the hypocrisy in the Church. However, I remain because Jesus has made it clear to me that HE desires that I stay. It's that simple.

It also bears repeating - I don't know of ANY Christian Church outside of MCC that is unconditionally welcoming of gay people. While the Catholic Church is fairly vocal it is not hateful. You can't compare what the Catholic Church says to say what the Rev. Fred Phelps and his ilk say and do. In my view Evangelicals are the most vicious when it comes to condemning gays.

VB8

2007-11-26 20:03:59 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

You are wrong on both accounts:
First, the Church does indeed allow homosexuals to receive Communion because merely being homosexual is not a sin.
Second, the Church does not tithe. Tithing demands a minimum of 10% of one's income. The Church fosters the Virtue of Charity in that one gives what they can when they can. Demanding an absolute miminum, which is what tithing is, opposes the Virtue of Charity.

2007-11-30 05:23:55 · answer #4 · answered by Daver 7 · 0 0

The official Catholic Church position is anti-homosexuality. They may, however, say that all people deserve basic human rights. If so, they're right. That's a little different than your friend's position, but not all Catholics agree with their own church. Same for most other Christians. Everyone has their own conscience before God. The Bible has a lot to say about sin, but actually not very much of it talks about homosexuality. It is mentioned clearly in the Old Testament, where it was forbidden under penalty of death, and also, but not so clearly in the New Testament, where St. Paul somewhat infamously declares that people who commit such things as homosexuality, "will not inherit the kindgom of God" (1st Corinthians 6:9). I say its not so clear for two reasons. The Greek words translated as "homosexuals" or "effeminate" are disputed as to their exact meaning, though its likely they refer to something sexual. Secondly, the Bible says that all sins are forgiven. Note how two verses later Paul says: "And that is what some of you were; but you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, by the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God." (2nd Corinthians 6:11) Note also that Paul doesn't attribute the sanctifying of the sinners to the fact that the behavior was forsaken or that the guilty persons changed themselves in any way. He uses the passive voice--you were washed, you were sanctified... The action comes from God, and his grace is given to man, not vice versa. By the grace of God, a sinner becomes a saint, literally meaning a sanctified one. Hope this helps clarify this important, but often misunderstood subject. Yours in Christ, Nick

2016-05-26 02:22:38 · answer #5 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

To my knowledge...NO ONE is forced to support, or be a member of, the Catholic church.
If gays want to belong to the Catholic church they should realize that as a member; they.... like any other member of the church... are expected to obey the laws and follow the teaching of the church.
If the teachings and laws of the church conflict with what a person personally believes is right...that person should join & support a church more to their liking instead.

2007-11-26 20:34:12 · answer #6 · answered by Kaye 6 · 1 0

Here's a little tip for you. No one stops you at the door of a Catholic Church and asks you what your sexual orientation is. They don't ask you before you go to communion either.

2007-11-26 19:47:44 · answer #7 · answered by mollyflan 6 · 4 0

The Catholic church until comparatively recently advocated execution for being gay. Indeed the last execution in the UK for being gay was as late as 1836. To put that in context, it was after the abolition of slavery.

It was not uncommon in jurisdictions where the church held power for the assets of homosexuals so executed to be confiscated by the church.

The history of this particular human rights atrocity is long and very, very sordid.

2007-11-26 19:53:13 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Oh, yes! The Catholic church recognizes no boundries when it comes to money. However, things like forgiveness, tolerance, and turning the other cheek - you know, the stuff Jesus tried to teach the world - has plenty of boundries within the Catholic church. Sad, isn't it?

Addition, one hour later:
For those who might doubt that the Catholic church is corrupt. Read this website to settle all doubts:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/TheocracyAlert/html/092705seesholtz.html

2007-11-26 19:51:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

They'll look the other way. According to the Giving USA Foundation, Americans gave $97 billion to congregations in 2006.

2007-11-26 19:54:05 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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