Dunga is a jungle boy living in the Amazons.
He has only been exposed to his tribes community and is only literate in his own tribal language.
Dunga's tribe got a book that teaches him on how their god created the world and is capable of helping him through special meditations. Dunga has experienced many miracles from his meditations and he feels that he got a authentic relationship with Yogana(his god).
Dunga has experienced miracles. Dunga can feel Yogana in his soul. Dunga will not be converted for his faith is unbreakable. Yogana also teaches that Jesus of Nazareth was a man and misinterpreted as God and anyone that put faith in Jesus will be doomed.
Christians, I do not say that your faith is fake. I do not say that you do not feel God in your soul. I do not say that God never answered your prayers.
However, Dunga for instance, has exactly everything you got with a different belief!
What does that mean?
How can two different beliefs claim same faith?
2007-11-26
13:58:13
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The thing is that when a person's mind believes in something so strongly it will delude ones mind to the state where anything said and thought in ones belief will be conceived as real.
If the Bible said that monkeys could fly in the past then that is exaclty what you Christians will believe in and try to make up reason for it to be true.
2007-11-26
13:59:58 ·
update #1
Ofcourse you would try to make sense out of monkeys being able to fly by interpreting the Bible in such ways that the monkeys actually could fly.
2007-11-26
14:01:32 ·
update #2
Those who are so concerned with "Dunga and his man made philosophy?" start with a skewed view of God. They assume that
1) God is unable to reveal Himself without man doing it for Him.
2) God will be unjust during the judgment day.
3) God sets unfair expectations.
The Bible reveals that God has clearly revealed Himself in nature (Romans 1:20) in the hearts of people (Ecclesiastes 3:11) and the individual seeker (Deuteronomy 4:29) as it proclaims,
“But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.”
These scriptures prove assumption #1 as false.
Those who assume the above have come to their own conclusions about God--not based on truth. They are not speaking about the living God revealed in scripture, but rather an idol crafted out of their own politically correct imaginations. We see the correct view of God as stated by Abraham in Genesis 18:25...
"Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
God will not judge us by which religion we associate with, nor what church we attend. God will judge according to the individual heart, and that heart will be judged by the measure of how much revelation was imparted to them.
If you do not believe the Bible, you have no argument because, according to your own philosophy, there is no god, no heaven, no hell, and no impending judgment. To argue would be just being contentious. However, if you DO believe the Bible, then you can also take the following as a promise.
Psalm 19:9
The judgments of YHWH are true and righteous altogether.
2007-11-26 14:02:48
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answered by Anonymous
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Okay the Bible does not state that monkey's ever flew... The bible states practical situations. Everything in the Bible has come to pass so far. Now as far as Dunga goes God knows that Dunga was only taught to believe in his God as for the generations before him ... God is a loving God and understanding God and he knows that if these people had the right teaching then they would be able to see and receive his true love. God may still bless them even though they were mis-taught the sin os one the originator of the religion
2007-11-26 14:10:07
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answered by Silly Me. 1
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If Dunga didn't get a copy of the God Yahweh's Laws of Moses then he is not communicating with the only real God that science can now prove exists. Satan is tricking Dunga by pretending to be God. That was easy. Ask another question.
2007-11-26 14:13:22
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answered by Anonymous
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If Dunga has only been exposed to his tribes community in the impenetrable jungles of the Amazon, how did he come to know Jesus of Nazareth? Your example is so filled with contradictions I don't see the point in your final question.
2007-11-26 14:17:51
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answered by mjlocad 4
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Why can't both be valid? Along with Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, and a host of other faiths. God is infinitely more than anything we can understand. The history of all faiths shows the struggle of the finite mind of man to understand the infinite concept of God. Jesus said, "Other sheep have I, not of this fold." I would not care to set the limits as to who is in those other valid folds or how God relates to them. That being said, for me, Christianity is the path I know which points me in the direction of the infinite God, so I will continue to follow this path. I hope Dunga continues to follow his path, and I trust the God who is beyond all human understanding loves us both and will bless us both in His way.
2007-11-26 14:09:36
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answered by viciousvince2001 5
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Dunga does not have exactly what we have. Yogana did not come to this earth to save us.
Dunga is saved because God saves all people who have not had opportunity to be exposed to the real truth. Dunga is going to spend eternity with God and gets to know Him in heaven.
2007-11-26 14:04:25
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answered by Nina, BaC 7
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It's impossible for all religions to be true.
In other words, if Islam is essentially true, then Buddhism,
Hinduism and Christianity are not. If Buddhism is essentially true,
then Islam, Christianity and Hinduism are not. And so on.
How can I say such a thing? Because if you *really* study these
religions, it will become clear that each makes bold, fundamental
assertions about reality that are not compatible with the others.
For example, Hinduism states that divinity is present in everything.
Christianity, Judaism and Islam all assert that God is distinctly
separate from what he has created. The implications of these different
views run very deep, and they are fundamentally incompatible. It's
logically impossible for both views to be true.
So why bring this up, anyway?
Well first I have to make a confession. I would *like* to believe
that all religions could be true. I would personally *like* to believe
that all paths lead to God. It feels good. It's a kinder view of
the world. It puts everyone on equal footing.
But it just doesn't make sense.
Truth is, by nature, exclusive. There are always more wrong
ways to do just about anything than right ways. There are always
more wrong answers to any given question than right ones.
True?
And you know what? This really raises the stakes. It puts a
real sense of urgency in our search for truth, because it shows
that if we're not careful, we can fall for a half-truth.
On the other hand, if you diligently search, seek
out the facts, and your spiritual journey brings you to
a place where the pieces fit in place - if everything makes
logical sense and it feels right in your heart - then you
should not hesitate to share your joy with others.
OK... now let's stop right now and make something very clear:
If we possess the truth, it doesn't give us the right to
be unkind to those who disagree. It didn't give Bin Laden the
right to declare Jihad, hijack airplanes and fly them into the
World Trade Center. It didn't give so-called 'Christians' the
right to kill people in the Crusades. It doesn't give us the
right to be disrespectful or violent.
What it does give us is the right - and the confidence -
to go out into the marketplace of ideas and *see* if our Truth
stands up to hard scrutiny.
C.S. Lewis was talking about this very thing when he said,
'You don't need to defend a Lion. You just need to let him
out of his cage.'
If you really do have the truth, then you have nothing to fear.
You don't need to burn books or censor speech. Truth is its
own best defense.
In our modern, sophisticated culture, spirituality gets
locked up in a cage. It's a taboo subject. Discussions about
religion are not considered 'polite conversation.' So nobody
talks about it.
The result? People don't talk to each other. They live in
fear and isolation.
Some folks harbor ideas and notions that make absolutely no
sense, but because those ideas are never brought out into the
light of day, they're never questioned.
Others have great wisdom, but they're afraid to share it with
others!
How sad.
In your search for the truth, then, know that you're not just
looking for something that sounds good. As with any other kind
of truth, it may *not* feel good all the time. Know that you're
looking for something definite, something that will by nature
make some pretty bold claims.
Also, please understand that if someone tells you they
possess the truth, they're not being arrogant. Fact is, they're
either sadly deceived or else they're right. You can't put
someone down for being deceived, and you can't fault someone
for being right!
The real challenge is to discern the difference.
2007-11-26 14:08:47
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answer #7
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answered by notthemamas1 4
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Your story is called: Dunga, minus the A .
2007-11-26 14:11:09
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answered by Ruth 7
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First of all I don't believe in God and Jesus, I KNOW them to exist. Belief implies doubt, I have none. In your example you seem to forget that God who can do anything, can overcome even the tribal teaching. God leads people to follow Him, not the other way around. God can reveal Himself to ANYONE. That is why when early Christians went into remote parts of Africa, they discovered tribes completely cut off from the western world, were Christians... they just had different names for God and Jesus. Don't limit what God can do.
2007-11-26 14:11:54
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answered by Scott B 7
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Yes, I have the COURAGE to attempt to answer you.
It is my personal belief all mankind seeks a "God". "God" is limited by our language and understanding. Dunga feels his "God" in his soul. He has a relationship......he can only call, name, understand what he has been taught, by whatever avenue........
God holds us accountable according to what we know and understand. This is in the Christian circles referred to as "age of accountablity". It is not so much a number of years as it is a level of understanding...........
If I were to knowingly teach you something that is false, I would be held to a stricter measure than you, who simply learned incorrectly.
There is no human circumstance that God is unaware of. He judges our intentions, our hearts, our reasoning to a stricter accord than our actions........
It is when we REJECT the truth that we stray. There is no penalty for not knowing the truth.
2007-11-26 14:15:12
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answered by †LifeOnLoan† 6
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