JOHN 3:2-3,7
2 This one came to him in the night and said to him: “Rabbi, we know that you as a teacher have come from God; for no one can perform these signs that you perform unless God is with him.” 3 In answer Jesus said to him: “Most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
7 Do not marvel because I told you, YOU people must be born again.
this is a commandment straight from the horses mouth. you guys are so big on following the commandments of jesus. why do you skip this one? : NOTICE in verse 7... 'YOU MUST be born again"
it is looked down upon to even mention the words born again around a group of witnesses. why?
2007-11-26 13:41:58 · 18 answers · asked by ~testube Jebus~ 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Jehovah's CHRISTIAN Witnesses see tHE Necessity of CERTAIN Individuals (Being "Born-Again") ! ! !
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In Response 2 Lucid Freedom's Comment: Lucid ACTUALLY its tHE "otHEr Way Around" Girl ! ! ! My Experience is that wHEn Going Door 2 Door its Been OVER 15 years that I've Had a Born-Again "Invite" Me into tHEir Home 2 Have a "Bible Discussion" !
The Look of HATE that I get from Born-Agains When I go From Door 2 Door is Almost COMICAL ! "Eyes" even had Born-Agains (RUN) into tHEir Houses 2 Get Away From tHE Light Coming From JW's !
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2007-11-30 13:29:12 · answer #1 · answered by . 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Reading June's answer i can see where the confusion come in.
John ch3v3: Jesus says to Nicodemus -
"I assure you, most solemnly i tell you, that unless a person is born again (anew, from above) he cannot ever see (know, be acquainted with, and experience) the Kingdom of God" - AMP version - Jesus goes on to say He means born of the spirit - The Holy Spirit....
As one poster said we must pray that all people come into the full knowledge and understanding of God's word. Lets ask our Lord God to reveal the Godhead to all who yet don't understand.
Yeshua Hameshia
EDIT: Can i add for 'spooky mouse' - the poster is not slandering anyone - she and the others here who are Christians - are only concerned for ppl who are lead astray - we long for ppl to see the truth about our Saviour and Lord. There are many 'cults' around - God wants all His children back - not just a few. With JW's - there is much confusion - we are here to bring the truth - to bring light into the darkness.
Hope this helps you to understand.
2007-11-26 14:24:43 · answer #2 · answered by ;) 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Does the scriptures mention being born again more then twice?
No it does not.
Jesus did not physically ascend into heaven, and so, therefore, will not return in that manner. We may be assured that Jesus will never become human again based upon Jesus' comments to Nicodemus, in the 3rd chapter of John, where he explained that "what is flesh is flesh and what is spirit is spirit."
That means that those who are born again, as Christ was, leave off their human flesh and become spirits. Paul also wrote at 2 Corinthians 5:16, saying in the now awkward phraseology of the King James: "Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more."
If anointed Christians will never again know Christ according to the flesh, then that rules out the notion that Jesus or his anointed brothers will be returning in the flesh—as many wrongly assume.
Which rules out being born again a second time, back into flesh to inherit the earth.
Psa 37:11 "But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace."
Since not everyone meet the requirements to enter God's Kingdom there must be ones alive in the flesh to inherit the earth.
2007-11-26 16:56:40 · answer #3 · answered by keiichi 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
" Unless Anyone is Born Again..he cannot see the kingdom of God.” This Begs the Question..Was Moses, Abraham, Isaac and all the faithful Ones who came before Christ...were they Born Again?
When Jesus spoke to Nicodemus, a Pharisee and a teacher in Israel, Jesus had not yet gone back to heaven. Of course, no other human had died and ascended to the spirit realm, to heaven. Jesus himself stated that John the Baptist was peerless as a prophet of God, but “a lesser one in the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is.” And the apostle Peter explained that even faithful King David had died and was still in his tomb; David did not ascend into heaven. (Acts 2:29, 34) There was a reason why those who died before Jesus, such as David, John the Baptist, and other men of faith, did not go to heaven. They died before Jesus inaugurated the way or possibility for humans to be resurrected to heavenly life. The apostle Paul wrote that Jesus, like a forerunner, “inaugurated . . . a new and living way” into heaven.
When that Jewish ruler came to Jesus under the cover of darkness, Jesus told him: “Most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) In response, Nicodemus asked: ‘How can that be? How can a man be born a second time?’ He did not comprehend this divine teaching about being in the Kingdom of God. Was there any way that he could learn about this? Well, not from a human standpoint; no man could instruct him about it because no one had been in heaven and thus in a position to explain anything about getting into the Kingdom. The only exception was Jesus. He could teach Nicodemus and others because He had descended from heaven and was qualified to instruct people about such things.
2007-11-26 14:42:13 · answer #4 · answered by conundrum 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Those of the heavenly class must be born again or born of spirit because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Cor. 15:50-53, John 3:3.
They must be baptized in God's spirit because they will become "morning stars" or spirit/angelic beings and have to live as the angels do. Romans 8:14-16 14because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship.[g] And by him we cry, "Abba,[h] Father." 16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.
Job 38:7 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
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7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels [a] shouted for joy?
Footnotes:
Job 38:7 Hebrew the sons of God
Those who are to live on earth do not have to give up their fleshly lives to become spirits, hence they are not born of spirit. But they must become believers, accept Jesus roles in God's kingdom, get baptized in water, and obey Jesus to gain eternal life.
Debbie
2007-11-28 04:52:49 · answer #5 · answered by debbiepittman 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well, isn't that nice. It seems like the Catholics are wrong about believer's. I don't need to be born again, 'cause I know I will not go to heaven. I am not even close to being "almost perfect". But there is no way out, I have to get baptized sooner than later in case Jesus comes earlier than I thought.
2007-11-26 14:08:39 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Because only those who are of the heavenly calling ie.the 144,000 are 'born again'.
The rest of obedient mankind will reside on the earth.
Nothing has been missed.Again all Jehovah Witness beliefs are Bible based and therefore can be explained using the Bible.
2007-11-26 15:16:56 · answer #7 · answered by lillie 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why do you need to be born again?.. isnt gods first creation good enough and his gift of life, there is life and death its quite simple... your psycological state of mind means nothing neither does your hateful attack upon jehovahs witnesses, by the way there are plenty of other christian sects that dont belive in being born again. tounges etc, etc
Im not really a christian but i did notice in your question that the all capitals were "Jehovahs Witness", I was just wondering why you were attacking this group in particular..
Christians they slander each other with the vilest forms of abuse and make perfect little pigs of those that they win over to there side..
Ut Semetuem Feceris, Ita Metes...... (As You Sow, So You Shall Reap)
2007-11-26 14:07:37 · answer #8 · answered by Spooky Mouse 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
We do believe that everyone who will "See the Kingdom of God" must be born again.
Who will "see the Kingdom"?
Only those who will be a part of that Kingdom government and share in ruling it. Those who will be kings and priests in the Heavens. The 144,000.
The rest of us - those with an earthly hope - are not born again.
It is not looked down upon to mention the words born again in a group of witnesses. It is a doctrine that I just don't think you understood when you were a JW.
2007-11-26 13:47:47 · answer #9 · answered by eliz_esc 6 · 2⤊ 4⤋
As nice as they are; they detest us born agains, more than the Catholics! Interesting thing: My aunt is a JW and her daughter and I were talking (her daughter is not a Christian) Her daughter tells me; its weird if I mention the word Jesus, she gets this weird look across her eyes. I have had experiences with the nicest JWs; who arent crazy about talking about the blessings of Jesus and they too get this strange hooded like look when I mention Him. Not all...but alot in my personal experience. Gods Peace :)
2007-11-26 13:52:25 · answer #10 · answered by Loosid 6 · 5⤊ 4⤋